The "conversation" on the Context of White Supremacy ran the gamut from concepts of white supremacy, to the role of white anti-racists in the long Civil Rights Movement into the present, and the role of black conservatives in maintaining white supremacy.
As you will hear--in this long 2 hour conversation--at a certain point (about minute 56) it is abundantly clear that I am not going to play along with the host "Gus T. Renegade's" clumsy angle.
I have tried to annotate the program so that you can search through it at your leisure.
The sound quality is a little uneven on the host's end, but for the most part, it can be understood.
[There is some priceless comedy gold here. Gus T. Renegade's obsession with Tim Wise approaches being a type of priapism. Gus T. Renegade also has a young child (ostensibly, who knows?) that reads a script and asks questions to the guests in a scene right out of the movie "I'm Gonna Get You Sucka". Of course, I don't fall for the hustle. The commercials at the end of the show are priceless comedy gold.]
The Context of White Supremacy online radio show is a helpful reminder of how racial chauvinism can also hurt black and brown people, where because of the traumas they have suffered in a white supremacist society, some of them may lose the capacity for nuanced thought, mirroring the racial ugliness that has been afflicted upon them in an obsessive and neurotic manner.
The interview/conversation is a large file which had to be divided up into two parts.
11:00 Chauncey DeVega introduced
15:50 Defining White Supremacy
23:50 Understanding implicit bias and the need for a more nuanced understanding of Whiteness and White Supremacy
31:20 People as individuals within and in relationship to systems of power
33:45 The origins of WARN and its title
36:45 Is Chauncey Devega afraid of white people?
40:24 Black conservatives and racism. Are they victims of White Supremacy?
52:50 Gus T. Renegade's obsession with Tim Wise begins
56:00 The danger of race essentialism56:51 Is Clarence Thomas "white"? Is Clarence Thomas a victim?
63:00 Gus T. Renegade has more empathy and respect for Clarence Thomas than Jane Elliot and other white anti-racist activists
69:00 Parsing the language of "good negro" and "bad negro"
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00:35 What does it mean when Chauncey DeVega says that Tim Wise is his friend
02:20 Tim Wise is apparently "rich" from being a white anti-racist
07:27 White social activists should work for free and people of color paid
09:50 Tim Wise is "impatient" and "mean" to a young child named "Justice" who calls into the Context of White Supremacy online radio show
16:55 At which point I ask, why is Gus T. Renegade so obsessed with Tim Wise?
21:40 "Justice" calls in to the show. I refuse to play along with Gus T. Renegade's shtick.
23:46 Some questions from the listeners to the C.O.W.S. show
48:50 Unintentionally funny commercials from "Racismdaily.com" and "Counterracism.com"
53:07 Gus T. Renegade announces that this episode of the C.O.W.S. show will not be in the archive