Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Dear Angry White Conservatives Mourning Romney's Loss: Chill Out

Alternet and Salon featured this essay yesterday. Help a brother out if you could by sharing this piece with your friends and contacts on Twitter, Facebook, and Reddit. My open letter to aggrieved conservatives is making its rounds online, but I think we can do even better. They are having a collective sad and need our help and support.
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Dear Angry White Conservatives Who Are Mourning Mitt Romney’s Loss,

If Fox News is any indication, many of you are dismayed, upset, and befuddled by Mitt Romney’s loss to President Obama. Some of these feelings are normal. Politics is tribal. When your team loses, a bit of sadness is expected.  

However, some white folks are acting out in some very unhealthy ways. Young white conservatives participated in a near riot at the University of Mississippi where they hurled rocks at bystanders, used racial slurs, and burned Obama and Biden campaign signs. Other angry white folks used the Internet to send out racist messages and pictures on Twitter as an act of protest and anger at the country’s re-election of its first black president. I believe that these events are malicious outliers.

Many white people who voted for Mitt Romney are simply scared and angry that a “black socialist Muslim atheist Communist usurper” was reelected President of the United States.

89 percent of Mitt Romney’s voters were white. 59 percent of the white vote went to Mitt Romney. He also won the majority of white voters in every age and gender group. We live in a country that is racially segregated. The United States is also very polarized politically. At present, Americans are not talking to each other across the dividing lines of race, class, and ideology.

Because many white conservatives only interact with like-minded people who come from the same racial background, it seemed obvious to them that Obama was going to lose on election night. With the defeat of Mitt Romney, they are experiencing the universal hurt that comes when reality interjects itself into a dream world and fantasy.  

Many white people are feeling imperiled because President Obama’s win is being framed by the news media as a sign that people of color are gaining political power in the United States. The pundits keep talking about “the browning of America” and how the Republican Party will continue to lose elections if it just relies on white voters to win.  I imagine that many white people, especially conservatives and older voters, may be feeling a bit obsolete as the country changes around them.

I am white people’s best friend. As such, I will tell you things that other people will not; I will tell you the truth even when it makes you upset at me.

The media wants to scare you with all sorts of talk about how, in a few decades, America will be a “majority minority” country. You “want your country back” and people mock you for these sentiments. I am a good listener. Other people find joy in your tears and from the sad images of Mitt Romney’s headquarters, Republican rallies, and voters on election night. I feel your pain. I am your friend.

Guess what? Things are going to be okay.


First, we need to admit that many white conservatives have a problem. They are victims. I know that you do not want to hear that word. “Victims” is a word that only the liberals, progressives, black people, gays, and feminists use.

Please hear me out. We know that most conservatives get their news and information exclusively from Fox News and other types of Right-wing media. I get the appeal of this habit: it feels really good to be told that your point of view is correct, and that most of the country agrees with you…even when it does not.

You are very trusting people by nature. As conservatives, you are also very deferential to authority. Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, and the Right wing media have been saying that good white folks like you are being discriminated against by Barack Obama and his legions of black and brown people. There are apparently groups of black radicals who stand around outside polling places, looking all mean and angry. There is a black Attorney General who hates white people. According to sites like the Drudge Report there are roving gangs of black people who live to waylay and beat up white people. Hispanic immigrants are sneaking into the country by the millions and taking your jobs.

Things are so bad for white people in the Age of Obama that a good many of you actually believe that anti-white “racism” is a huge problem facing the country.  White men are apparently the saddest and most oppressed of all groups, as recent research has revealed that many of them have lost all hope in the country’s future.

The Right-wing media failed you. They lied and told you that Mitt Romney would win in a landslide. They cooked up stories about voter fraud and rigged polls that were biased against Republicans. The Right-wing media machine betrayed you—their audience.

If I were white, a conservative, and listened to the Right wing media, I would be scared and upset too.  I would feel confused. How could so many people lie to me? It just isn’t fair! It must be some type of conspiracy.

I do not have a ready answer. But I do want to help you feel better. Because I am your friend, I am going to let you in on a secret that Fox News and the Republican Party will not share with you. Are you ready?

White people run America. More specifically, white men are most powerful group of people in the United States. Yes, people who look just like you, remain in charge. White men control every major social, political, economic, and cultural institution in the United States. With few exceptions, white men are the CEO’s of every Fortune 500 company. 

White men control both Hollywood and the mass media.

There, approximately 95 percent of the most important positions as writers, directors, advertising, producers, show runners, executives and the like are held by white men. This is a great advantage in a country where white men are 30 percent of the United States population.

White men control the United States Congress and Senate. There are now 20 women in the Senate—this is a record number. By comparison, there are no African-Americans in the same governing body. There are two Hispanic and Asian senators, respectively. The majority of senior level and cabinet positions in the federal government are held by white men. White men are also over-represented on the United States Supreme Court.

Yes, it is true that the President of the United States happens to be a black man: this is a groundbreaking achievement that should not be easily discounted or dismissed. However, Barack Obama has faced unparalleled levels of opposition and resistance from conservatives in Congress--and from many white people in the country as a whole--because of his racial background. While many white folks may not know this, the country’s first black president has done remarkably little in terms of advancing policy goals that would directly benefit people of color in the United States. In fact, Obama has spoken less about race than any president in 50 years.


White folks have a tendency to see racial progress as a zero sum game: if they feel that they are “losing” then someone else must be”winning.” In the time of the Great Recession, these anxieties are especially acute. But guess what my friends? Even in the worst economic downturn in 80 years, whites are doing much better than people of color.

The black middle class has been decimated by the Great Recession. While almost all Americans saw their economic fortunes decline in this moment, people of color were most acutely impacted. Even in this economic environment, white people have at least 22 times the wealth of blacks and Latinos (this gap doubled during the recession).

In addition, white women in their peak earning years are worth an average of 40 thousand dollars. By comparison, black women and Latinas have a net wealth of about 5 dollars. As sociologist Joe Feagin documents, of the 400 richest Americans according to Forbes Magazine, 86 percent of them are white men.

While many white men have been bombarded by the media with stories about how they are disadvantaged in the job market by “quotas” and “reverse discrimination,” the new book Documenting Desegregation exposes such beliefs to be a myth. Since 1966, white men have actually increased their numbers in senior management positions, and gained an even greater hold over middle management positions in corporate America.

In this poor economy many white people are hurting financially; nevertheless, they are doing much better than people of color.

Because I spend a good amount of time talking to white people, I can anticipate the obvious question. Many of you are likely still thinking about this numbers game, and how white folks are going to be a “minority” in America. Do not worry. White people are still going to be the largest single racial group in this country; you simply may not be the majority of the population.

I have a second secret for you. White folks possess one of the most valuable gifts in the history of the United States. What is this you wonder? You are considered “white.”

 “Whiteness” is an amazing invention that has only been around a few centuries. In the United States, it has been something to die for, protect, and kill for. Historically, Whiteness is a type of very lucrative property that is handed down through families, and has been protected by the law.

As the comedian Louis CK smartly observed, being white in America is one hell of a great deal. If offered the choice, he would sign up every year because of all the unearned privileges and advantages that come with it. Whiteness is such a great deal because white folks do not have to actively do anything to benefit from it. However, white people are amazingly protective of this prize—and really careful about whom they let in the club.

For example, the Irish, Italians, Jews, Poles, and other “white ethnics” were once viewed as a type of European “other” at the turn of the 20th century. If history is a guide, racial groups that are now considered non-white will become the new “white” people in the years to come. Whiteness always finds a way to keep on winning and to grow its numbers.

My white (conservative) friends, these are scary times for you. As the country changes, the Republican Party is going to have to do some soul searching. You will likely be asked to engage in some difficult conversations about the relationship between your political values and racism. As the Southern Poverty Law Center has documented, white folks are going to be under pressure to surrender to their worse and lesser natures by hate groups, dead enders like the Tea Party, and militia groups who will play on your anxieties about the demographic shifts we are seeing in the United States. If you are smart, patient, and pragmatic, there are voices out there—white conservatives in fact—who are trying to help your movement adapt to the 21st century. Do seek them out. You can get your own house in order, and not live in a state of irrational fear and sadness.

Racism and conservatism do not have to be the same thing in America. Mitt Romney's defeat should be a wake up call in this regard.

Things are going to be okay. As someone who cares about my white brothers and sisters, I want you all to feel safe, secure, and prosperous. You will see that a changing America, one in which all people have a shot at success across the color line, is to our nation’s collective advantage. A good number of white folks already understand this fact. As such, they chose to vote for President Obama—the candidate who clearly demonstrated that he was best prepared to lead the country forward.  I hope you can come along as we all work together in the service of the Common Good.

55 comments:

Cavoyo said...

"Racism and conservatism do not have to be the same thing in America."

No, they must be the same thing. Conservatism is about the defense of privileges from egalitarian opposition: http://coreyrobin.com/2011/09/27/revolutionaries-of-the-right-the-deep-roots-of-conservative-radicalism/ Do you think racism grants privileges to some Americans? Do you think these privileges are being threatened by egalitarians? Well then defending racism is conservative!

The Sanity Inspector said...

Some self-aware Republicans recognized the bubble that the party is in, and called this election their Pauline Kael Moment. She was the movie critic who didn't know anyone who voted for Nixon in '72, the year of the most lopsided election victory in our history.

Steven Augustine said...

White Guys shouldn't even get *slightly* nervous until rappers appear on the currency.

Anonymous said...

When will DeVega and the rest of the Reverse Racist/Liberal Blacks realize that Conservatives are not the racists, it is their so-called White Liberal allies who are holding them down. The Conservative White judges people as individuals, based on character. The Liberal White screams "RACISM!" in unison with Black people, in order to make Blacks feel like they need government help to survive because the game is rigged against them. It is the Liberal White's hope that Black people will buy into the victim mentality and stop aspiring to great heights so that the Liberal Whites don't have to compete with them in boardrooms, real estate markets, etc. I grew up in the Liberal Northeast. Trust me, Liberal Whites want NOTHING to do with you and PRAY that a disproportionate number of Black people get hooked on Government.

chaunceydevega said...

@Anon. What meds are you off? You should not stop using your anti-psychotics unless you are being closely supervised by a physician.

@SA. Who should be on the dollar bill? Ol Dirty? GZA?

@Sanity. Great reference. No, they do not realize the bubble they are in--some of their leading voices are in denial still; the sheeple are under the belief that "voter fraud"--how ironic--denied Romney the presidency.

@Cavoyo. How can we get a new type of republican conservatism that is not highly correlated with authoritarianism?

Black Sage said...

You could not even define "conservatism." – Thordaddy

@Thordaddy, you should’ve utilized the contraction couldn’t, instead of could not.

Black Sage said...

Poor conservatives, when will they learn that doubling down on the sadistic Southern Strategy no longer has the effect to win an election it once held? Republican party, that vivid, flaccid enclave of Whiteness, continue to refer to human being as “parasites” and clinging to past performances as a businessman as your know-it-all credential to lead a diverse, eagle empire. You pitiful Conservatives! When will you learn that fostering racial resentment targeting certain groups is a losing strategy? When will you realize that “traditional Amerikkka”, as Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly puts it, is actually a long gone epoch that only lives between the pages of a dusty history book? You foolish Republican electorate, you are not only a foot-stool, but a voting tool as well for the White elites and Uncle Tom, Black conservatives to elicit unwavering support for the prolonging agony of living in an oligarchy controlled regime.

Therefore, I propose the following to you obsequious Conservatives: quickly remove your blinders so that you may see on your own, or else, realize once it’s too late to change course, that you’re writing your own epitaph.

Comrade Physioprof said...

There are apparently groups of black radicals who stand around outside polling places, looking all mean and angry.

Yeah! Like that dude in the french beret that was holding the door for everyone at the Philly polling place as they entered to vote. MEAN AND ANGRY!

Thank fucken god Fox News had their crack reporters on that dude, or some serious election FRAUD AND INTIMIDATION would have gone unnoticed!

Cavoyo said...

"For example, the Irish, Italians, Jews, Poles, and other “white ethnics” were once viewed as a type of European “other” at the turn of the 20th century. If history is a guide, racial groups that are now considered non-white will become the new “white” people in the years to come. Whiteness always finds a way to keep on winning and to grow its numbers."

I don't think that in the future, Republicans will try to make other races into whites. I think what will happen is the Republicans will find a race to include under the "hardworking, virtuous, and deserving" banner, and then claim that the support of this race for the Republican Party shows that they aren't a white-dominated party. Judging by this column, it may be Asians: http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-gops-asian-american-fiasco/ , but looking at what's happening in Congress, it could be Latinos. In our society where "racist" is a swear word, it's to Republicans' advantage to make it look like they can build a rainbow coalition. If they are successful at co-opting enough nonblack races (and this is a big if), they'll then claim that the Democratic Party is a black-dominated party that doesn't represent most Americans.

Another advantage about letting the white race shrink is that they can then claim that whites are a minority. Then they'll claim that programs like Affirmative Action, which "steal from white people," are no longer necessary. They'll also claim that white people should receive Affirmative Action benefits because they are a minority. Mind you, this is already going on, but I expect these kinds of arguments to ramp up over time.

CNu said...

The reason we never saw the real Romney is because the real Romney is clearly insane....,

nomad said...

The thing about white supremacy is that it is an equal opportunity oppressor. As demonstrated by black police officers, black mayors (MOVE in Philly, for ex.) and now a black President, you don't have to be white to oppress black and other nonwhite people. When whites become the minority in this country, white supremacist ideology will remain. It will just be implemented by black and brown people. The skin color of the downpresser is irrelevant. If history is any indicator blacks will be falling all over themselves for the job.

Steven Augustine said...

Software vs hardware; skin color is just one descriptor of the *hardware*

Steven Augustine said...

Romney insane... or given to quotidian delusion... like hundreds of millions of other Murrkkans? How are Baptists any less nutty than Mormons? They all talk to the Bearded, Vaguely Levantine, Anus-Free Sky Giant (who, to His credit, only talks back when they're psychotic).

And then there's Astrology, talk of Angels, Exorcism, Alien Abductions... the marketplace of delusional notions is robust, indeed, in Murrkka! Is it the low standards of education, the fluoride, the Ritalin, the junk food or a glorious cocktail thereof? Or maybe it's because the whole country is built on an Indian burial ground... any horror film buff will tell you that's a red flag...

It's all just Legacy Mass-Delusional Hogwash. Romney isn't nuts, just Tribal Stupid.

CNu said...

you don't have to be white to oppress black and other nonwhite people.

"oppress", smdh....,

There are faaaaar too many profligate, spawned out of wedlock, and utterly non-productive oxygen thieves and useless-eaters stinking up the collapsing urban monads and rural hamlets of the good old u.s. of a..., these muhuggahs gotta go, gotta go, gotta go!!!

nomad said...

"these muhuggahs gotta go, gotta go, gotta go!!!"

See what I mean? CNU FOR PRESIDENT!!!

nomad said...

What's an urban monad?

Steven Augustine said...

"What's an urban monad?"

Anagram for urban nomad

CNu said...

What's an urban monad?

Term of art used by Robert Silverberg to describe the itchy, urine-reeking, claustrophobic, two-legged roach motels used to warehouse uselessly eating oxygen thieves..., I read that when I was about thirteen...,

Now I use it to describe the organic fusterclucks like NYC, Mexico City, New Delhi, etc..., teeming with dangerous no job, no education, no prospects, young chaos drones.

nomad said...

'Term of art used by Robert Silverberg ...
Now I use it to describe the organic fusterclucks like NYC, Mexico City, New Delhi, etc..., '
who's the greater offender? somebody who uses a term incorrectly or the person who replicates that misuse?

CNu said...

um, I sincerely don't give a phuk nomad, since telling the truth necessitates "giving offense" to profligate useless eaters and oxygen thieves - and - those who impotently, mechanically, and stupidly identify with them.

nomad said...

-telling the truth necessitates "giving offense"-

Truth??!?! You can't handle the truth!!!

Truth requires clarity and precision. Not obscure made up meanings to words.

CNu said...

Here we go, time to pose emotionally and play make-believe.

This is the juncture where I leave you and the other masturbatory elders to your own impotent councils - cause none-a-youze has anything remotely approaching an answer to the ignant ni-ni problem, still less the ignant ni-ni problem in the context of a collapsing economy

and all you're gonna do from this point forward is angrily shake your fist in my general direction because I DO look at the problem clearly, directly, and unapologetically...,

Bruto Alto said...

@CNu

More hate....you mad bro?

Whatever pissed you off yesterday made todays rants silly. When you have a point your a good yang to CD yin but what gives you the right to even use Robin Harris's line? You again hate yourself go play some tennis and grunt out some shots. You need a better hobby or something (someone).

CNu said...

lol "you mad bro?" coming from my 13 year old boy seems silly as hell, but coming from a grown-assed man?

Really, that's all you got?

Look BA - I'm not gonna squander even one more second of my valuable time "volunteering" to do the daddy thing for some other cat's nasty little bastiches.

They're not mine, they're just a problem.

To the extent any of'em become my problem, well, you already know where I stand on that one - somewhere to the right of Atila the Hun, complete with detailed visions of collective punishment.

You'll notice the Hon.Bro.Preznit hasn't spoken a word yet about the poor or about poverty, rather, he's made very pointed remarks about protecting what's left of the middle class and those whom make best efforts toward becoming a productive part of that middle-class.

You again hate yourself go play some tennis and grunt out some shots.

jiggaboo projective psychology at its finest.

No jiggaboo, I love myself, I love my wife and kids even more, but I dayyum sure hate the very same folks that Chris Rock famously spoke the truth about all other black folks hating too.

Steven Augustine said...

There are places all over the planet (yes, "even" within the USA) where girls are kidnapped at a young age, beaten, brainwashed and forcibly-addicted to drugs... and then turned into zombies to work in the gutter ranks of the sex trade: as repulsive as they become, do we not feel compassion towards them? We understand that it's not, in the end, *their* fault that they've become what they've become, no? Whether or not a rare few of them were strong enough to resist, escape and re-write the narrative.

Isn't it the same with the "ign'nt ni ni's" you're talking about, CnU?

Into what conditions were they born? Did they ever stand a chance?

You may blame their biological parents, but those parents were in exactly the same boat (or metaphorical slave ship) when they were born. Not only does it go back for generations, but it was *deliberate*... it's a genocide, an expertly-delivered homicide-beating without visible bruises... the worst kind of clever evil: a "legal", slo-mo genocide, playing out before our very eyes.

I don't expect any of us to know exactly what to do to help... I'm fairly certain I wouldn't last more than a few minutes if I ventured back into the Hood with a shopping cart of healthy meals and good books and my noble intentions! Laugh

But showing nothing but disgust/contempt (and calling for a demographic "cleansing") is not only shallow thinking, that displays a remarkable lack of scientific interest in history and its gruesome subtleties (and the deeper, sinister, long-term politics the New Nazties are so good at)... it's exactly what THEY (the New Nazties) *expect* of you! Your response to the problem was engineered.

How can you be so easily duped?

I recently read a comment thread from 2010 in which you (and another fellow, the blog's owner) did a *magnificent* job of tweezering the head off that blatantly Niggra-disdaining Octoroon, David Mills (I hope his ugly psycho-politics have improved somewhat in hell)... you had the facts and the rhetorical delivery system and all Mills had was Google (obviously, considering the lags in his rebuttals). You did such a great job of putting the middlebrow crypto-cracker in his place! Damn!

What's happened to you since 2010, CnU?



makheru bradley said...

They may not be mourning after Petraeus testifies tomorrow.

CNu said...

There are places all over the planet (yes, "even" within the USA) where girls are kidnapped at a young age, beaten, brainwashed and forcibly-addicted to drugs... and then turned into zombies to work in the gutter ranks of the sex trade: as repulsive as they become, do we not feel compassion towards them? We understand that it's not, in the end, *their* fault that they've become what they've become, no? Whether or not a rare few of them were strong enough to resist, escape and re-write the narrative.

Of course we rightfully feel compassion for such girls, none of what has happened to them is their fault.

Isn't it the same with the "ign'nt ni ni's" you're talking about, CnU?

rotflmbao...,

stop playing.

Obviously, completely, and categorically NOT!

Folks tell these ni ni's, told they mamas, and told they grandmamas before them, to straighten up and fly right.

and you know that's a fact SA.

CNu said...

You may blame their biological parents, but those parents were in exactly the same boat (or metaphorical slave ship) when they were born. Not only does it go back for generations, but it was *deliberate*... it's a genocide, an expertly-delivered homicide-beating without visible bruises... the worst kind of clever evil: a "legal", slo-mo genocide, playing out before our very eyes.

Enough already...,

I sit and chat with the diminutive Guatamalan ladies transiting to and fro their grungy slave labor jobs on the city bus daily. Malnutrition having shaped them into tiny little people like something out of a Grimm's faery tale, not unlike the Viet Minh who came to dwell in the projects back in Wichita nearly 40 years ago, fresh off a boat from yet another truly genocidal hell.

How these people with no discernible language, cultural, environmental, or biological skills can set up shop and thrive in a totally alien context where Sheniqua and Laquisha are fully and completely native - is an intractable mystery to me.

CNu said...

I don't expect any of us to know exactly what to do to help... I'm fairly certain I wouldn't last more than a few minutes if I ventured back into the Hood with a shopping cart of healthy meals and good books and my noble intentions! Laugh

and why exactly is that SA?

CNu said...

But showing nothing but disgust/contempt (and calling for a demographic "cleansing") is not only shallow thinking, that displays a remarkable lack of scientific interest in history and its gruesome subtleties (and the deeper, sinister, long-term politics the New Nazties are so good at)... it's exactly what THEY (the New Nazties) *expect* of you!

You personally have no idea what to do to help, you've left and distanced yourself from the scene of the "crime", you don't seem particularly attuned to the contextual dynamism of the problem space itself, yet you term my thinking "shallow"?

C'mon brah...,

I expect such reactions from emotionally crippled automata cycling the usual litany of niggaHz.

You, on the other hand, know better.

Steven Augustine said...

@CnU:

You don't think the long-term, from-birth, total-immersion brainwashing, toxic nutrition and utter lack of inclusion... counts?

There were only two hierarchies I can remember from my stint (3-13) in the hood: Machismo and Money (and, of course, they overlapped at the top). The first is the fast-track to death/disfigurement, the second is the prison-chute. I only escaped my society-assigned (and media-confirmed) Fate by being an oddball with very little social life and a fortress of books; I was reading while the other kids in my war zone (and, remember: this was way back in the '60s) were participating in what was, as best they could tell, The World.

Is it really their fault they fell for those horrible tricks? Was the Academy's mysterious '70s-era embrace of "Ebonics" (what my mother called the system of being "branded on the tongue") really their fault? Was the perfect (brainwashing) storm of Gangsta Rap (underwritten by the suburbs) really the faults of those 5,6, 7-year-old kids who modeled themselves on the shit they saw on MTV? Was it *really* those kids' faults that literacy, civility, science, math and fine arts are considered, by ALL of America, to be white virtues... and that any Black kid who indulges in any one of those is considered, at best, inauthentic, and, at worst, a race-traitor or a Queer (well, back in my day it was "sissy")?

Seriously. I've used this analogy before because I think it's so apt: White Girls with Eating Disorders are invariably discussed as though the problem is internal... while media tells thm to eat to have fun and fit in but be skinny to... have fun and fit in! Of course those little White Girls are crazy!

And *of course* those Black Kids are fucking crazy, too.

Steven Augustine said...

@Dark-Odin-Fart:

Lo, the Brown Inferioralist speaks!

Que pasa?

Listen, your vocabulary... it's all wrong, mayne. Genuine bone-white Nazi Nitwits who hate *outward* (as opposed racist, chip-on-their-shoulders Asians/Hispanics/Indians who hate *inward" and attempt to externalize it on Negro targets) just don't write/speak like that.

Do your homework! Haven't you learned *anything* hanging out on Stormfront? How many Stormfronters do you even *see* on WARN? Do you think they give a damn what Negroes think? Only defrocked/disillusioned white liberals come over here to jeer, Dude!

You out yourself relentlessly, Brother Brownie!

Steven Augustine said...

"You personally have no idea what to do to help, you've left and distanced yourself from the scene of the "crime", you don't seem particularly attuned to the contextual dynamism of the problem space itself, yet you term my thinking "shallow"?"

Nuh-uh, CnU, I'm well-attuned to it... that's why I left. America is the murder capitol of the Industrialized world. If the crazy kids hadn't killed me, the cops, or the white militia, or the greed-deranged ex-lover, or the (so on and so forth) would've. The entire country is pathological and I had 30 years of empirical evidence before I fled the first time,

By the second time I was sure of it. USA = Death... which happens to be its chief export!

Thordaddy said...

Steven,

Again, do a little more research. Your line of attack is silly because it's so off the mark. TD isn't hiding his real identity. Think about "white Supremacy" in a manner not related to black nihilism.

In fact, why don't you go about defining white Supremacy for yourself WITHOUT making reference to the radical "black" collective.

Can you even do this?

Steven Augustine said...

"How these people with no discernible language, cultural, environmental, or biological skills can set up shop and thrive in a totally alien context where Sheniqua and Laquisha are fully and completely native - is an intractable mystery to me."

You think of Guatemalans as having no discernible language, etc.? Ditto the Hmong?

I'd argue that if a group of refugees lands in a relatively rich country (during a relatively prosperous era) and these refugees carry with them enough "traditional" culture to give them the comfort of a continuous, connective identity (and, therefore, a way to value community/self by metrics independent of the judgments of the new host country), and the host country basically ignores them... there's a fighting chance for these refugees.

On the other hand, take another group of refugees, treat them like cattle, forbid their traditional languages/cultures while forbidding (on pain of death!) any degree of fluency/expertise of the host-country's language/culture... separate families even *after* they arrived in the host country... do this for a few centuries... and *then* hit these culturally-hollowed-out refugees with the full-spectrum conditioning of post war American media (the core values of which are simple: white = beauty, black = deformity)... let this grotesque stew simmer for a few post modern decades...

Et voila! Pathological dysfunction in your refugee-specimens on a scale that BF Skinner could only have *dreamed* of!

Why is that so hard to see?

CNu said...

What's happened to you since 2010, CnU?

For the past few years I've engaged the problem 60+ hours a week instead of my previous voluntary and discretionary 8-12 hours a week.

I've revised my estimate of its complexity and intractability.

I've assessed the commitment, motivation, courage, and competence of former black partisan allies - and found them wanting without exception.

I've assessed the commitment, motivation, and competence of black parasitic gatekeepers - and found them quite resilient and formidable adversaries.

I've assessed the commitment, motivation, and means of the civic community and found it adequate to the needs of anyone willing to earnestly take a step in its direction.

Steven Augustine said...

Thordaddy:

We all (or many of us) *saw* the picture, mayne. We saw the Spanish you've sometimes utilized in comments online. We saw that the nice Hispanic feller in the photo (the writer of those comments in Spanish) calls himself Thordaddy and uses the word "nigels" (chickenshot for "niggers") just like you! Now what are the odds? Laugh.

Give it up, Muchacho! The circumstantial evidence against you is more than enough to convict you of being a Doofus.

Plus: you swung in here on your greasy rope in the first place ranting that "nigels" vote "with their skin"... ignoring the fact that nearly half of the regular posters on WARN are stridently anti-BHO! Idiot.

Your "mission" and "message" are picayune, dimwitted, corny-assed (self) hatred.

Snore.

Steven Augustine said...

"What's happened to you since 2010, CnU?"

+

"For the past few years I've engaged the problem 60+ hours a week instead of my previous voluntary and discretionary 8-12 hours a week."

I feel that comment and respect your take on the situation.

And I'm not asking you (or anyone) to do what I wouldn't and lay down your life (for no good reason) in, or for, the Hood.

My point is only the same point I make with White Liberals on this matter: consider the circumstances... on a millennial scale.

And, yep, it's all just conversation. But isn't well-reasoned argument/ conversation and end in itself?



CNu said...

You don't think the long-term, from-birth, total-immersion brainwashing, toxic nutrition and utter lack of inclusion... counts?

I'm stuck on the "utter lack of inclusion" part SA.

If my parents could go and integrate a Missouri Lutheran Synod church in 1959, and I could go integrate a John Birch society school in 1975, because each institution had something of value which they sought to obtain..., there are no barriers to entry or inclusion even REMOTELY approaching what we overcame to get what we wanted.

I only escaped my society-assigned (and media-confirmed) Fate by being an oddball with very little social life and a fortress of books; I was reading while the other kids in my war zone (and, remember: this was way back in the '60s) were participating in what was, as best they could tell, The World.

lack of parental investment in offspring is dayyum near a death sentence...,

Is it really their fault they fell for those horrible tricks? Was the Academy's mysterious '70s-era embrace of "Ebonics" (what my mother called the system of being "branded on the tongue") really their fault? Was the perfect (brainwashing) storm of Gangsta Rap (underwritten by the suburbs) really the faults of those 5,6, 7-year-old kids who modeled themselves on the shit they saw on MTV? Was it *really* those kids' faults that literacy, civility, science, math and fine arts are considered, by ALL of America, to be white virtues... and that any Black kid who indulges in any one of those is considered, at best, inauthentic, and, at worst, a race-traitor or a Queer (well, back in my day it was "sissy")?

lack of parental investment in offspring is dayyum near a death sentence...,

Seriously. I've used this analogy before because I think it's so apt: White Girls with Eating Disorders are invariably discussed as though the problem is internal... while media tells thm to eat to have fun and fit in but be skinny to... have fun and fit in! Of course those little White Girls are crazy!

And *of course* those Black Kids are fucking crazy, too.


lack of parental investment in offspring is dayyum near a death sentence...,

It takes one helluva degree of motivation, commitment, courage, and competence to protect and nurture your own precious offspring to fitness in Babylon.

But really, what are the alternatives?

Lack of fitness is a veritable death sentence.

CNu said...

lol,

Farst, I haven't been as tickled in years since I spotted you recently and most incompetently peddling the theory of dopamine hegemony among your pointy-headed peckerwood elders and betters.

I'm coming to pay you a visit before too terribly long.

If I were you, I'd try to grow a pair of eyes in the back of my head...,

nomad said...

'nearly half"?
I think we're way past the halfway point!

Steven Augustine said...

CnU:

I just think it's a repulsively cruel world in which a human is required to be *extraordinary* in order to have an okay life. Lucky us: our parents were invested; that's not even the norm for Whites any more.

So it's not merely "the way it is" or anything Spartan/Darwinian/Malthusian/Randian like that for any group (in America) *other* than America's wretched of the Earth: niggers and injuns.


Steven Augustine said...

@nomad:

"'nearly half"?
I think we're way past the halfway point!"

I didn't want to jinx it! laugh

CNu said...

You think of Guatemalans as having no discernible language, etc.? Ditto the Hmong?

I think of them as disadvantaged english language learners who have to struggle several times as hard as negroe natives would have to do.

and these refugees carry with them enough "traditional" culture to give them the comfort of a continuous, connective identity (and, therefore, a way to value community/self by metrics independent of the judgments of the new host country), and the host country basically ignores them... there's a fighting chance for these refugees.

You mean to tell me that respectable negros who made it through the rigors of Jim Crow didn't have enough continuous connective identity and traditional culture to maintain after the fall of Jim Crow?

hit these culturally-hollowed-out refugees with the full-spectrum conditioning of post war American media (the core values of which are simple: white = beauty, black = deformity)... let this grotesque stew simmer for a few post modern decades...

How to account for those on whom the "hollowing-out" proved itself competely ineffectual?

Why is that so hard to see?

Didn't work on you, didn't work on me..., mebbe the ones on whom it did work simply aren't up to the rigors of Babylon, something like this peskly little cracker Farst who realizes he'll never be anything more than a discard amongst his own people.

CNu said...

I already have them eyes.

We'll find out soon enough, won't we Josh?

Steven Augustine said...

Loki-Fluffer:

I Googled you, nitwit. How do you think I uncovered your (or your evil twin's) dating profile? And if you're a "White Supremacist", why have you been haunting Black Sites for 5 years, dropping 50-meter screeds with a notable paucity of the word "monkey"?

And, again: can't you read? I've been arguing *against* the obvious Trojan Horse of the BHO psyop-presidency since the late middle of 2008... as have plenty of us here.

Go play with your poo, kid. You no longer make me laugh my ass off. Yawn.

Go bug some Goths on MySpace, Muchacho.

CNu said...

So it's not merely "the way it is" or anything Spartan/Darwinian/Malthusian/Randian like that for any group (in America) *other* than America's wretched of the Earth: niggers and injuns.

Injuns already got wiped out, black folk keep thriving despite the long odds and the weak and unfit with whom the more sentimental among us excessively identify...,

I wonder if RMoney spends even one instant identifying with a cracker crumb like Farst, you think?

Steven Augustine said...

"You mean to tell me that respectable negros who made it through the rigors of Jim Crow didn't have enough continuous connective identity and traditional culture to maintain after the fall of Jim Crow?"

Victim culture not much of an inoculation against the depredations that were to come, I think.

Steven Augustine said...

@CnU:

"How to account for those on whom the "hollowing-out" proved itself competely ineffectual?"

Dude, not to brag, but I'm on record as having an unusually high IQ... as are you, I'm sure. We are obvious exceptions proving a rule. An IQ of 100 shouldn't be a death-sentence.

Steven Augustine said...

Oh, good, the conversation has sunken to the nitwit's level. As it will!

Anyway: I appreciated the talk, CnU!

Later,


SA

Anonymous said...

See also:
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/09/everything-you-think-you-know-about-white-working-class-voters-is-wrong/262619/

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

Excellent post Nomad!

Anonymous said...

Nice to know I'm not the only person to have read that book in 8th grade many years ago. SciFi is a great tool for recognizing when some men are striving to make fiction reality.

StewartIII said...

NewsBusters| Daily Kos Week in Review: Race to Oblivion
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-johnson/2012/11/16/daily-kos-week-review-race-oblivion