Monday, April 9, 2012

From the Files of Stating the Obvious: Reverend Wright Suggests That White Supremacy Drives World Policy



I never understood the controversy about Reverend Jeremiah Wright: his interpretations of race, politics, and American history are (to my eyes) rather matter of fact and obvious.

Apparently, Reverend Wright is bringing the ruckus again. The beauty of this latest manufactured controversy is that even in the efforts to selectively edit and "compile" Reverend Wright's various sermon(s)--which were delivered over a week-long revival at Metropolitan Baptist Church--the truth still shines through.

Moreover, Wright's observations about American imperialism, the intellectual origins of neo-conservatism (for a moment I though he was going to talk about Leo Strauss), and his analysis of how white supremacy is central to Enlightenment era political thought, were an object lesson in his deep bonafides. Ultimately, Reverend Jeremiah Wright is a fascinating figure both because of his love of the limelight and penchant for theatrics, as well as his breadth of training and knowledge.

I have no doubt that Jeremiah has some Charles Mills and Emmanuel Eze on the bookshelf. I also have no doubt that many conservatives, especially those invested in a chauvinistic and reactionary white populism, cannot stand Reverend Wright because he is confident, brilliant, and more than a bit "arrogant." He is smarter than they are; and in the sin of sins for black manhood as seen through the White gaze, Reverend Wright loves to demonstrate his superior intelligence whenever given the chance.

There is another irony at work here. While many have tried to smear President Obama by virtue of his association with Reverend Wright, most of his Right-leaning centrist corporatist policies are anathema to the radically humanistic tenets of Black Liberation Theology.



But then again these are details which are of little concern to those who want to put Reverend Wright and Barack Obama on the same enemies list. Facts be damned. In all, for many in the Right-wing echo chamber, ideology trumps empirical reality.

46 comments:

CNu said...

I never understood the controversy about Reverend Jeremiah Wright: his interpretations of race, politics, and American history are (to my eyes) rather matter of fact and obvious.

Please drop a link to the article or articles that you wrote at the time of the original controversy that substantiate your claim to not having understood the controversy?

sledge said...

I have to agree, he is intelligent, smart, charismatic, and he delivers the message he is selling in a humorous way. The thing about snake oil salesmen, regardless of color, be they politicians or preachers, they all tell their audiences what they want to hear.

Pulling verses from the bible and applying them in either strict black and white, or in shades of grey depending on his agenda point is pretty clever. But also misleading to his flock which one assumes he is trying to show the way to heaven. Or is that his agenda?

I'm a conservative, very conservative. I know a lot of conservatives, some of them black. But I've never met a conservative like the ones he describes. With the goals he attributes to conservatives. That makes me wonder if the conservatives he describes are only found in his mind. Created by his perspective into a warped view that he uses for his reality.

Let me ask you this. Does his message bring people together? Does his message make you want to go find a white man, call him brother and hug him?

If your answer is yes, I'll retract my comments about Reverend Wright being just another snake oil salesman selling a product to a willing audience.

I find the essence of his message not much different than the essence of the message of the KKK. Simplified, God wants you to hate that person over there because they're a different color and do bad things.

There are plenty of people who buy into hate to make themselves feel better. There are also masses of people who buy into everything that comes out of snake oil salesmen's mouths or the books they write. It's much easier than thinking for themselves.

I can't change people's minds about hate, politics, or common sense. They believe what they want and the sheep will line up behind and follow whom ever tells them what they want to hear. Truth be damned.

Hasn't it always been that way?

CNu said...

Sledge, you just now slipped into darkness...,

Wright is far from an exemplary person, inasmuch as his personal life is not up to clerical snuff.

He is egotistical and self-serving in a way most unbecoming to the clergy, as appears to be normative among high-dollar megachurch entertainers. (at least he wasn't caught smoking crystal meth with a gay hooker)

That said, NOTHING that he said about America is incorrect and so-called conservative white folks - MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE - need to listen to and carefully and deeply ruminate over his message without regard to their overly sensitive hurty feelings.

Ray Semedi said...

@sledge said
“Let me ask you this. Does his message bring people together? Does his message make you want to go find a white man, call him brother and hug him”.
You sound ridiculous. I guess you’re trolling.


I have a question for you.
What messages have you received that make you want to carry a weapon at all times and keep your eyes on black men? I’m assuming to "stand your ground".

Doesn’t sound like you’ve been inspired to want to hug those black men and call them brother. Maybe it only goes the other way. Black messages are good if they inspire other blacks to feel soft and warm-hearted towards white people.


Self defense and preparation must only be for white folk in your world.

sledge said...

@ CNu

Slipping into darkness? Isn't there a song about that? I think there is. Very seldom do I get hurt feelings by things other people say. Probably because I look at larger pictures and understand drivers of human behavior.

I don't expect everyone(or anyone) to agree with me. For any number of reasons another person will think differently.

I do not defend ugly things and bad behavior of certain whites in the past. To be sure it has occurred.

But no one can't point to one group and say they are of the devil. Individuals of all colors have had their hands in evil. No one color can claim a lock on it or an exemption from it.

For instance, just one example. White people facilitated, by purchasing, blacks as slaves. But other blacks did the actual rounding up of other tribes to sell into slavery. Were they not trying to dominate other peoples lands by sending it's inhabitants into slavery. From what I've read it is still occurring today. Was one color more evil than the other?

Reverend Wright, along with others, is serving a purpose for the blacks who accept his views. He is providing them a devil to blame their problems on. In his case, a white devil. Not much different than some extreme Muslim leaders are doing.

In my opinion the Reverend misses a lot with his self imposed limited vision. That is convenient in helping him to identify the white devil. But it ignores the truth and the complexity behind why things are the way they are.

Everything that happens does so for a complex series of reasons. From leaves falling from trees, to waves crashing onto the shore, to the way societies operate. Just looking at the leaf as it's falling from the tree doesn't tell you very much.

The Reverend uses that same kind of vision to proclaim the white devil is trying to hold on to power for it's own benefit. Really?

Whites will not be in the majority in this country in five years. Maybe not this year. Why would these white devils let that occur if they are trying to preserve their own power.

Whites devils elected a black President, who in turn appointed a black Attorney General to run the Justice Department. Why would these power grabbing white devils do that?

If you follow the Reverend's train of thought it must be because the white devils are desperate so they are up to something.

Maybe it's because that a majority of whites have come to realize that people are just people, no matter the color.

Maybe when Reverend Wright, and those like him, start seeing people instead of devils to blame problems on Things will get better for everyone.

Just for clarification which you probably already guessed. No, I didn't vote for Obama and I'm not voting for him this time. That doesn't make me a racist, that makes me smart. I'd be happy to vote for Powell, Cain, Rice, or West. Actually, I'd be damn happy with them over Romney.

This is written with utmost respect for your anticipated disagreement.

nomad said...

Wait, now, Chauncey. Hath thou succumbed to the forces of darkness? Is the hapless erstwhile black superhero fallen so low? "A Right-leaning centrist corporatist". This be the unkindest cut of all.

sledge said...

@ Ray Semedi

Thanks for your questions. No, I don't troll, I say what I feel and think. I don't intentionally try to tick anyone off. I do try to look at what other say and their motives for believing as they do. I just don't always agree with them as they don't with me. I'm looking for insight and shared thoughts from actual people. Not books and videos.

I work with a lot of blacks and some I consider friends. No, we don't always agree. But we do know what's inside each others hearts. I also have a black daughter in law who thinks I'm a crusty old white guy but loves me anyway. LOL!

I carry a gun because crime is way up here and the Supreme Court has ruled that the police have no responsibility to protect citizens. They don't stop crimes, they solve crimes, sometimes.

Anyone, of any color, who doesn't legally carry a weapon, accepts the risk of being a victim. I'm not a risk taker.

Now ask me if I took my daughter in law down and helped her pick out a revolver after she got her permit.

You bet I did!

Debbie said...

Sledge states- "Reverend Wright, along with others, is serving a purpose for the blacks who accept his views. He is providing them a devil to blame their problems on. In his case, a white devil.”

Sledge can you point out where in this video (or any other) in which Reverend Wright seeks to blame white people.? In the first video at about 4:02, Wright clearly states he is not talking about white vs. black people.

Also I’m curious to why you felt the need to mention that you have “black friends” and a black daughter-in-law?

sledge said...

@ Debbie

Hi. Because his words came to me as implied devil. When he spoke of Bible verses and mentioned the two Gods. Several times it was the God of the Bible or the Wall Street(White People) God, or Tea Party(white people) God and so on. This goes back to Satan initial sin of wanting to be worship as God. He did mention that were some listening to him in his audience that were worshiping the wrong God.

The reason I mentioned my friends and daughter in law when replying to Ray Semedi was because he had asked questions and made statements that indicated that I could not have feelings for or care about someone who was black.

That is obviously incorrect to someone who knows me. But he doesn't. So that was my way of giving him a glimpse of someone he doesn't know whom he may have disagreement with on some topics.

I didn't want him to think because we disagree on some things that we disagree on everything. Or that we are at odds with each other.

Debbie said...

Sledge

Calling Tea Party or Wall Street Street does not equate to white people. Many whites do not support the agenda of either two. Again view the first video clip at listen carefully to what Wright says around 4:02. Nothing he has stated is wrong. You're getting defensive for no reason.


Also, many racists claim they have black friends and/ or family members- this does not mean they are not racist. No saying that you are racist, but pointing out your black friends/ family doesn't mean you aren't.

Deb said...

@nomad..."Wait, now, Chauncey. Hath thou succumbed to the forces of darkness?"

I know right?! I had to read that one again! :lol: No worries CD, the dark side ain't so bad. :D

Thanx for posting the excerpts from Rev. Wright. I think if I'd been listening to him preach, rather than some of those "publicity/prosperity pimps" out there, preaching a gospel of vengeance and fear and living in hypocrisy - I may not have been suffering the crisis of faith that, for so many years, has kept me out of their houses of worship (I did say, 'may not' :D - being absent has helped me tremendously in working on my own sense of what spirituality means.)!

Mind if I cross-post the first vid at some later date?

freebones said...

everyone loves to draw the racial lines in the sand about reverend wright, but i fault him for exactly the same reason i fault far-right preachers:

he is using the bible and religion as a political tool.

my staunch atheism aside, religion has no place influencing personal politics to the degree of wright's usage, and i wholly condemn it. i do not care what his end goal is. he is manipulating his flock with his personal agenda by tying it in with the bible.

people need to think for themselves, and that includes how they draw conclusions for their religious doctrine.

sledge said...

@ Debbie

Yeah, I listened to what he said as he was setting up his attack on Thomas. (A great SC Justice by the way) So who do you think he was referring to when speaking about those who started wars and the other things he was rattling off? (The Rev has a list) Perhaps I am being defensive.

In the second paragraph I think you might be right. Even though I don't consider myself to be a racist. The fact that I mentioned my black friends that I sometimes disagree with, without mentioning my white friends that I sometimes disagree with could give me the appearance of racism. Let me assure you that I disagree with people of all colors on certain topics.

Guess I'm a pretty disagreeable guy. LOL! But I'm mostly harmless.

Debbie said...

Sledge asked - "So who do you think he was referring to when speaking about those who started wars and the other things he was rattling off?"

The elite (Wall Street), ignorant (Tea Party), and evil people- not white people.

chaunceydevega said...

@Sledge. Thomas a great justice. Lord have mercy. A corrupt man who sleeps through hearings and is a mute that only speaks up to parrot Scalia, and who is willing to overturn the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts.

Yeah. A great justice--you make me laugh and smile! Good stuff.

sledge said...

chaunceydevega said: @Sledge "Yeah. A great justice--you make me laugh and smile! Good stuff."

That's my mission in life Chauncey, a little ray of sunshine in a dismal world. :)

CNu said...

Reverend Wright, along with others, is serving a purpose for the blacks who accept his views. He is providing them a devil to blame their problems on. In his case, a white devil. Not much different than some extreme Muslim leaders are doing.

Sledge, write lived for 24 years under Jim Crow, 28 years under restrictive housing, essentially, the better part of his life as a young man in service to his country under the taint and constraint of 2nd class citizenship. For Wright to be in any way forgiving toward white America at all is heroic and Christian faaaaar beyond my capacity for forgiveness, and I never experienced any of that as a young man, and only traditional, habitual, midwestern white racism, ostracism, and denial of access and opportunity up until about my 18th birthday.

Wright has done nothing more severe than to recount living-memory truths as he experienced them and as he sees them.

There's no need to go back to slavery. For black men of Wright's generation, and absolutely and incontrovertibly for black men of my late father's generation, they experienced and bore witness to legally sanctioned and enforced racist evil up close and personally.

CNu said...

@sledge continued;

Everything that happens does so for a complex series of reasons. From leaves falling from trees, to waves crashing onto the shore, to the way societies operate. Just looking at the leaf as it's falling from the tree doesn't tell you very much.

Stop playing.

commentary on racism is most incisive when it keeps its focus on the economic dimension -- which I believe is central -- rather than the emotionalism about "hate" wallowed in to excess by infotainment for the unthinking. It is better to focus on the intent and the purposes of the racism, which are to create and maintain economic disparities. From such focal points, one can advance policy and law enforcement arguments to eliminate these imbalances. Then, you are speaking about the here and now in a clear, unvarnished and rational manner. This can be extremely hard-hitting without being pitiful and cloying. This is in the spirit of Malcolm X and Frantz Fanon, and that is momentum, that is self-respect, that is pride. If we got enough of this, it might also be revolution.

Yes, there is White-on-Black racism (along with many other forms), but its root is not primarily simple emotional hatred, rather it is both fear (of two kinds: xenophobia and the historical guilt over slavery that Thomas Jefferson admitted to) and greed. The mania for control is driven by greed, and the essential fear is the anxiety over the loss of that control. Ascribing White-on-Black racism to simple emotional hatred is the most comfortable overt explanation, as is clear from its prominence in the depictions of racism in popular culture (e.g., movies). The dominant culture finds it comforting to imagine that racism is confined to people with ungovernable hatreds and undisciplined minds. This relieves the majority who are comfortable with inequitable economic arrangements from any responsibility for the inevitable consequences of those arrangements; and even from any reproach in the eyes of recognized public opinion.

Racism is an instinctive tool to capture resources and deny them to competitor "species." This is why Obama is backed by the Wall Street bankers. To them, he is a tool to safeguard their fortunes against the rising tide of public resentment. They are excellent psychologists, and psychic abusers of the popular Black mind. They know, through their experts in PR (advertising and the management of the public mind), how the popular Black mind pines for symbols of "hope," for action heros on basketball courts and on the big screen -- Will Smith saving the fantasy worlds Hollywood conjures with smoke and mirrors. Any hero in any arena can be produced to distract and quell the masses, so long as it is not an actual hero in any arena of actual power.

Look at our Black "symbols" in those real arenas today: Clarence Thomas, Condoleezza Rice, Colin Powell; they've done precious little for Blacks in America, and have cashed in handsomely for precisely that reason. Most blacks are "supporting" (deluding themselves over) Obama for the same reason that older spoiled whiney white women are "supporting" Hillary: identification, they want what they see in the mirror to be honored, to be loved, to get attention, to be in control.

sledge said...

@CNu

Man, when you roll, you roll don't you!

I have no doubt CNu that you as a young man, your father and grandfather lived in rough times for black folks. Or that Wright did as well. Hopefully you're not any longer, but I have no way of knowing.

Since you used personal info I will also.

I don't recall my father or grandfather ever treating black people badly. They might have and I wouldn't have known it. I really didn't know any black people until I was in 4th grade when segregation ended and we were sent to their school. I don't remember any problems then. I do remember most of the black kids wouldn't talk to us much.

I did have one black friend that I brought home after school to ride this rope contraption with a pulley we had built in the top of a tree down to the ground. My parents didn't say anything. The lady next door did gave me a ration of crap the next day for bringing a black boy home. My mother lit into her.

The only other problem I had with a black guy was in the 9th or 10th grade. It wasn't racial, or not to me at least. I didn't know him at the time. In study hall in the cafeteria he was a few tables behind me and hit me in the back of the head with a paper ball with a rock in it. I climbed over those three tables and we went at it.

We were hauled off to the office and given licks. We went at it again in the woods across from the school later that day. Cops showed up and every one ran.

I saw him in a store and at the gas station a couple of times after that. We just nodded at each other and that was it.

The next year he got tied up with the local Black Panthers. Whether it was an official thing or he just started a group I don't know. I do know they held a riot the last day of school. A lot of fights and marching all around. One black kid told me that they were told unless we got involved me and my little brother weren't to be messed with. I don't know if that was because I had fought the guy or because we lived on the road that the blacks came into town on. Maybe he saw that I wasn't any better off than he was. He didn't come back the next year.

The reason I went through all that history is because of what you said about not being able to forgive white people. I'm ok with that. I hope you're ok with me not asking to be forgiven.

Because honestly, I don't feel any guilt. And it would be a pretty slick move to get me to feel the guilt of my father or grandfathers if they had reason to feel guilty.

Now I guess we can look each other straight in the eye and know where the other man stands.

If my post is longer than yours I'm going to be embarrassed.

CNu said...

Still playing...,

Your inability to fathom that racism is not the personal, anecdotal phenomenon you're stuck on seeing it as, has brought us to a simple and common intellectual impasse.

Racism, as experienced by Jeremiah Wright and men of his generation and earlier was a systemic, commonplace, entrenched fact and way of life.

That its effects systematically linger and in about 20% or so of politically active whites remains an intractable fact of life - is something that the rest of us continue to have to deal with.

Your agnosognosia can't be talked away any more than the intractably racist whites who function as the core of so-called conservatism (really white identity politics) can be talked out of their pathological speciation of non-whites.

The simple fact that you refuse to challenge such knucledragging pathological whites, that you collectively share and support many of the political positions that they promote, well...,

Coupled with the fact that it really bothers you that a man of Jeremiah Wright's generation unabashedly speaks truth to the fact of such racism in America, well....,

Has nothing to do with guilt. I don't know you from Adam's off-ox, and that's not going to change. The simple fact of the matter is that I couldn't care less what you think or feel about the truths spoken by Jeremiah Wright, in much the same way I couldn't care less about your stance concerning whether water is wet.

sledge said...

CNu said...
Still playing...,

"Your inability to fathom that racism is not the personal, anecdotal phenomenon you're stuck on seeing it as, has brought us to a simple and common intellectual impasse."

I wasn't playing. Your statement is where you miss any opportunity to change anything. Racism can "only" be addressed as a individual personal, anecdotal phenomenon. Because that is exactly what it is. Without that change at the individual personal level the societal change you seek will never be achieved.

The only other answer for those not willing to put forth the effort and time to inspire change at the personal level was found in Yugoslavia. It is currently being preached by the New Black Panther Party. I personally don't think it's a good idea.

CNu said...

Racism can "only" be addressed as a individual personal, anecdotal phenomenon. Because that is exactly what it is. Without that change at the individual personal level the societal change you seek will never be achieved.

And that's how the U.S. Armed Services were integrated, right?

Your worldview is so riddled with factual and historical errors that what you consider good or bad is of even less consequence than the wrongheaded superficiality of the academic racism chasers.

I go hard on the chasers because they too tend toward the personal, anecdotal and superficial - which is why it falls to a working physicist like Manuel Garcia Jr to call out the truth of the situation, inclusive of an opportunistic tool like the Hon.Bro.Preznit.Double-O who is blithely supported by many of the superficial chasers.

As for this horseshit here The only other answer for those not willing to put forth the effort and time to inspire change at the personal level was found in Yugoslavia.

Then minute white America flexes in that general direction is the minute white America basically, and literally commits suicide. You should never forget the black colonels and iron majors and how long they've had to systematically study and prepare for the Guns, Gold, and Grain yahoos that continue to pop up like whack-a-moles even in the contemporary armed services.

sledge said...

CNu said

"As for this horseshit here The only other answer for those not willing to put forth the effort and time to inspire change at the personal level was found in Yugoslavia.

Then minute white America flexes in that general direction is the minute white America basically, and literally commits suicide. You should never forget the black colonels and iron majors and how long they've had to systematically study and prepare for the Guns, Gold, and Grain yahoos that continue to pop up like whack-a-moles even in the contemporary armed services."

Actually, you read my comment and applied it in the wrong direction from the meaning I gave it.

I realize it's a waste of time to say this. But you may want to check the "Your worldview is so riddled with factual and historical errors that what you consider good or bad is of even less consequence than the wrongheaded superficiality of the academic racism chasers" thing against your own beliefs if you ever hope to have any effect on the real world. From what I've read you are fighting your own goal. But that's just a white guy's opinion, you go right ahead.

Constructive Feedback said...

My Dear Friend Chauncey DeVega:

How are you, brother?
Still at it I see.

Question - You know that the Commander In Chief is a Black Man.
If The Commander In Chief is the lead executive of "American Foreign Policy" must we conclude that Obama has WHITE SUPREMACIST POLICIES?


When America bombed the sovereign nation of Libya - what was the editorial position of WARN?
Did you report on what Obama did or did you focus on what Cheney said about Obama?

Deb said...

CNu....at the risk of not being totally certain that I GET where you're coming from (wouldn't be the first time here at WARN), I have to co-sign every one of your comments on this post.

Being of the same locus as Rev. Wright - though I've tried mightily for some time, to believe the opposite (often getting my "Black Card" pulled as a result) - I've come to understand that believing anything has really changed, is an exercise in futility. Oh, I've tried to be "forgiving" (which I've recently realized has been to a fault) but, the facts on ground have given the lie to that line of thinking.

That said, I apppreciate your "non-emotional" rebuttal of sledge's expressed, "inconvenient "truths."

CNu said...

Pleasure's all mine sis...,

What tickled me most about sledge's conspicuously transparent commentary was his call to consider "complexity".

However, when presented with even just a smidgeon of "complexity" himself, priceless.comedy.gold...,

sledge said...

LOL! Give me a break! Complexity of facts and complexity of double speak are two different things.

Throwing up documents that when you examine them turn out to be nothing more than self sided racism. With some large words thrown in as an effort to impress people and lend the document undeserved credibility doesn't qualify as a counter in my book. That's why I didn't bother to respond to it.

Deb, there was a reason for your statement.

"at the risk of not being totally certain that I GET where you're coming from (wouldn't be the first time here at WARN)"

CNu your really amusing. More please.

CNu said...

anosognosia is a turrible and irremediable condition..., (why talk is completely wasted on its victims)

sledge said...

Finally we agree on something. I couldn't agree with you more. I knew it was bound to happen sooner or later.

sledge said...

Seriously, I do have a question for you that I'd like to understand. It pertains to the document you put up.

This portion:

"Look at our Black "symbols" in those real arenas today: Clarence Thomas, Condoleezza Rice, Colin Powell; they've done precious little for Blacks in America"

I assume this list would also include Obama, Holder and and a few others.

My question is what did you or the black community expect them to accomplish for blacks in America?

Was there supposed to be some special action take or benefit they could bestow on people of color?

When they assume office they are supposed to be representing the entire United States. In a perfect world they wouldn't be subject to the corruption of money in politics. We know that isn't happening regardless of color.

Whites in general, expect (or hope for) honorable service from legislators and officials without the corruption and payoffs. That is the reason for the dissatisfaction, unhappiness and distrust of government among the white population in general.

Our officials aren't living up to our expectations of right and wrong.

What are the expectations of the black community and how are they different?

Deb said...

@sledge..."Deb, there was a reason for your statement."

Yes there was, but I'm 100% certain it's not what you think it was.

sledge said...

Deb said...
@sledge..."Deb, there was a reason for your statement."

Yes there was, but I'm 100% certain it's not what you think it was.


Yes maam, I take you at your word.

nomad said...

Er...
meanwhile.
@Constructive Feedback

"If The Commander In Chief is the lead executive of "American Foreign Policy" must we conclude that Obama has WHITE SUPREMACIST POLICIES?"

Yes. Yes we do.

"This Obama presidency has been a brilliant move by our ruling class, for this black, personable decoy has managed to pacify vast swaths of an otherwise restless constituency, while enraging others for the wrong reason. Although Obama’s blackness is irrelevant, it has become a fixation to both his detractors and supporters, so that it has become a point of honor to defend or depose this man for his blackness alone, when in truth his race does not factor at all in any of his decisions. One should not care that he is black, because Obama does not care that he is black, and not in a good way either. Obama is not here to rectify whatever ails the black or any other community. He is only here to facilitate the wishes of the Military Banking Complex, and he’s willing to trample on you all, black, white, brown or yellow, to achieve their goals."

http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/04/10/know-thy-enemy/

sledge said...

No takers to answer my question? Too bad. Must be a big secret. Well...........

CNu said...

Although Obama’s blackness is irrelevant, it has become a fixation to both his detractors and supporters, so that it has become a point of honor to defend or depose this man for his blackness alone, when in truth his race does not factor at all in any of his decisions. One should not care that he is black, because Obama does not care that he is black, and not in a good way either. Obama is not here to rectify whatever ails the black or any other community. He is only here to facilitate the wishes of the Military Banking Complex, and he’s willing to trample on you all, black, white, brown or yellow, to achieve their goals.

bears repeating - and - underscores complexity so elusive to some...,

CNu said...

Whites in general, expect (or hope for) honorable service from legislators and officials without the corruption and payoffs. That is the reason for the dissatisfaction, unhappiness and distrust of government among the white population in general.

Our officials aren't living up to our expectations of right and wrong.


lol, stop lying.

White folks didn't make a peep under two terms of atrocious perpetration by the Bush administration.

nomad said...

"Whites in general, expect (or hope for) honorable service from legislators and officials without the corruption and payoffs."

Cause, as you know, us Negroes is all in favor of corruption. It's our nature.

"The new racism is denial of racism."

sledge said...

CNu you should have figured out by now that I say exactly what I think. I don't lie. Sometimes I would probably be reacted to better if I did or if i just kept quiet. But that's not in me.

If the complexity comment above was for me. Thanks. I'm aware that our officials, black, white, whatever color, could care less about working for any color, unless it happens to be green.

I'd say you are right when Bush II was first elected. Whites, conservatives, hoped our government was going to be fixed. There had already been a lot of frustration building before that election. Then after 9/11 we all pretty much got behind him. We stayed behind him through his reelection mostly out of patriotism.(Now I think we were played.)

During Bush II's second term a lot of conservative eyes began to clear and open. We started seeing a pattern that went back through the Clinton years to the Bush I years. A picture started emerging that indicated Bush I, Clinton, Bush II, and now Obama are working for the same people. And they aren't the American people. Democrat leaders and Republicans leaders, two sides of the same coin, in the same pocket. Romney won't be any different, bought, paid for, owned.

There are different ideas as to what the pocket people are actually after. Some say it's just the money. Others say they've already got that so it's more about control.

Every day more people have woken up to what we've got here. And as the voices get louder and louder the government has been getting ready.

The more people wake up the more classes of people are placed on the potential terrorist watch lists. And the more citizen control moves are taken. Patriot Act, Executive Orders, NDAA, Terrorist Citizenship Removal, Internet Control, it goes on and on. Even the Health Care Act is loaded up with citizen control features.

You have to say one thing for the pocket people. They may be evil but they are damn sure smart. They play all of us against each other and we fall right in line.

It looks like the people calling for an end to capitalism are going to get their wish. We're headed for fascism and a controlled society at the speed of a bullet train.

All you have to do is look at government purchases over the past two years to see where we're at on the pocket peoples timeline.

The sad thing is that people will be begging for the pocket people to save them too. To keep in line with the topic of the blog I'll just add that it will be both black and white begging to be saved.

sledge said...

nomad said...
"Whites in general, expect (or hope for) honorable service from legislators and officials without the corruption and payoffs."

Cause, as you know, us Negroes is all in favor of corruption. It's our nature.

"The new racism is denial of racism."

Nomad I asked what the black community wanted from their officials. I commented on my thoughts of what the white community wanted from their officials.

Check your reaction. It denotes a problem. Man, sometimes I just don't know what to think..

Urban Exile said...

http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/11/opinion/granderson-violence-race/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

Urban Exile said...

ARGH! I meant to leave an actual comment. Just want the Chauncey Devega take on this article. http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/11/opinion/granderson-violence-race/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

Thanks

nomad said...

"Check your reaction."

sledge said.

I say 'what for?'

"It denotes a problem."

and well it should.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]"This Obama presidency has been a brilliant move by our ruling class, for this black, personable decoy has managed to pacify vast swaths of an otherwise restless constituency, while enraging others for the wrong reason. [/quote]

Nomad:

Though I don't know you as I have not read a series of your arguments I must say that I RESPECT YOUR RESPONSE. Thank you.

My only issue is that you focused on the "ruling class" but, the fact remains that (the force that I call....) "The Black Racial Services Machine" - after turning a blind eye to the invasion of the sovereign nation of Libya, commando strikes in Somalia - which have killed at least 12 Somalians - shooting them in the head and constant drone attacks on Pakistan - can't see that they are REVERSE 'DR KINGS'.

King told Johnson that his eye for justice around the world trumped his drive for "social justice" in America.

Today we have "JingOists" who don't want to derail their domestic social justice agenda by calling out the American Imperialist War Machine lest their favored commander in chief suffer criticism.

nomad said...

@Constructive Feedback
'My only issue is that you focused on the "ruling class" but, the fact remains that (the force that I call....) '
Yeah, I like to go to the source of the problem. Obama's a puppet. "The Black Racial Services Machine" is an instrument...of the ruling class.

CNu said...

Puppet, instrument, BRILLIANT!

Bro. Feed gone segue to crickets on that objective reduction, much as CDV stays conspicuously quiet, as well.

Constructive Feedback said...

Again - No disagreement on the TOOL known as the "Black Racial Services Machine".

My only question is - Why is it that the "Afro-Centrists", upon seeing MSNBC, Washington Post Co and Comcast investing in "Black Journalism" - to advance the musings of "The Black Racial Services Machine" they failed to see this action as that of "The Corporate Media", having been fooled that a favorable "progressive" message was pure?