Thursday, April 12, 2012

Diversity Games: Barack Obama and the Rise of "Multiculturalism Incorporated"

Racism is an instinctive tool to capture resources and deny them to competitor "species." This is why Obama is backed by the Wall Street bankers. To them, he is a tool to safeguard their fortunes against the rising tide of public resentment. They are excellent psychologists, and psychic abusers of the popular Black mind.
They know, through their experts in PR (advertising and the management of the public mind), how the popular Black mind pines for symbols of "hope," for action heros on basketball courts and on the big screen — Will Smith saving the fantasy worlds Hollywood conjures with smoke and mirrors. Any hero in any arena can be produced to distract and quell the masses, so long as it is not an actual hero in any arena of actual power...
Obama may have some decent intentions beyond his blatant careerism, but clearly the careerism is primary, and for that he must reassure his sponsors that he can quell the public. The job he is applying for is to keep public affairs calm enough so the same select businesses and the same select gamesters can continue to make the same government-backed mega-profits.
In business circles, this is called "maintaining a stable business environment." Obama says "change" but his sponsors know this to mean "stability." "Change" is what we’ll get from the billions we are forced to pay into taxes and inflated prices that profit all too few.
Populations that have histories of being oppressed are easily duped, because they are so desperate for "relief," for "salvation."
In one of our conversations earlier this week, Cnu offered up a link to a great essay at Counterpunch which worked through the relationship between President Obama, the overclass, and a symbolic politics of racial grievance which does little to challenge deleterious, systemic, institutional, macrolevel changes in American political economy.

While I most certainly believe in the power of aggrieved and subordinate groups to resist power and hegemony, and of course to force elite actors to respond to their justice claims, we must also concede how those at the top are adept at managing conflict as a means of serving their own narrow interests.

The election of Barack Obama is central to this story. It is clear that the colorline has been renegotiated in America since the time of the founding. However, it still remains. The Civil Rights Movement was successful as much because of peoples' activism and resistance, as for how elite actors realized that Jim and Jane Crow white supremacy was a national embarrassment in the context of the Cold War.


More broadly, the Racial State evolved over time because the type of personal, intimate, and directly violent exploitation of the plantation (with its old fashioned "dominative" racism) was not suited for a growing industrialism, or many years later, an economy that would evolve into a global, service based, information age set of international markets and actors. As Wendy Somerson notes, in this model "structural racism and sexism are thus denied through visual inclusion within corporate culture."

White supremacy in the United States (and Europe) had to "evolve" from the personal to the structural and institutional if it was to remain effective at allocating resources, and the gains of the in-group and its elites were to be preserved. By comparison, South Africa's herrenvolk society failed to adapt and was subsequently torn down. The genius of American racism is how it adapted in order to survive--all the while maintaining many of the same core inequalities and hierarchies of years and decades past.

The election of Barack Obama was the culmination of this transition. Multiculturalism incorporated won out. Diversity, even a type that is driven less by "justice" and more by profit maximization and the exploitation of human capital, is taken as a given. However, there is nothing at all radical about it. Ironically, I would suggest that the election of the country's first black President is the death knell for justice claims about racial equality and redistribution.

In a time when whiteness is perceived to be under siege, and the State has been drowned in the bathtub by the Right, the narrow and tenuous coalition of white Americans who were somewhat sympathetic to the idea that racial inequality ought to be addressed through robust policy interventions are now disinterested, and in many cases, hostile to such appeals.

Part of this dynamic is a function of crude self-interest and anxieties about scarce resources in the Great Recession. A second component is a cultivated type of white racial resentment and backlash against black and brown progress (seen in the 1960s and early 1970s with the anti-busing movement; in the 1980s with the "small government," "silent majority," and "California tax revolt;" and with the angry white men culture warriors of the late 1980s and early 1990s) which the Tea Part GOP White Nationalists have grown and nurtured in the Age of Obama.

To many Americans, the symbolism of a black man as President of the United States is an epitaph for racism's death--despite all of the available evidence which demonstrates how race impacts life chances in the present. In all, many across the colorline confuse an increasingly diversified class of (token black and brown) political elites, and a myth of an inclusively diverse America cooked up by the dream merchants on Madison Avenue, with a progressive vision and politics that actually empowers people of color by addressing hard questions about the maldistribution of resources in this country--inequalities that track very closely to the dividing lines of racial hierarchy and privilege.

As I often do, what follows is a particularly timely and telling passage from the great new book The Twilight of Equality. Here, Lisa Duggan is working through the rise of neoliberalism, the Culture Wars, and the power of conservative multiculturalism as a type of commonsense for "post racial" post civil rights America.

Could it be that the election of Barack Obama was the final act in the Black and Brown Freedom Struggle, as the Right can create a narrative that racism is dead--all the while mining white racial resentment and victimhood for electoral gains? Piling on, how has this moment been perverted by white racial resentment and faux Right populism into one where a corporatist center right Democrat is skewered as a "Socialist" for not being even more slavish to the financier class? Or more broadly, that the State and the social safety net must be destroyed in the name of "efficiency" and "small government" because it serves and protects minorities, the poor, women, "liberals," gays and queers, all to the disadvantage of "real Americans?"
From the Clinton Administrations's serious efforts to recruit racial minorities and women into high-level government service, and to reduce the range of exclusions of sexual minorities, to the G. W. Bush administration's more clearly token gestures of inclusion, the rhetoric of "official" neoliberal politics shifted during the 1990s from "culture wars" alliances, to a superficial "multiculturalism" compatible with the global aspirations of U.S. business interests.
"Culture Wars" attacks and alliances did not disappear, but they receded from the national political stage in favor of an emergent rhetorical commitment to diversity, and to a narrow, formal, nonredistributive form of "equality" politics for the new millennium.
...Some proponents of "equality politics" moved away from civil rights lobbies and identity politics organizations to advocate for the abandonment of progressive-left affiliations, and the adoption of a neoliberal brand of identity/equality politics. These organizations, activists, and writers promote "color-blind" and anti-affirmative action racial politics, conservative-libertarian "equality feminism," and gay "normality"...Such a realignment would rival the 1970's "Southern Strategy" that moved phalanxes of former Democratic voters out of the New Deal coalition and into the Republican columns, largely through "culture wars" racism.

72 comments:

Weird Beard said...

I see this push in my wheelhouse of psychology. A few of us are making the adamant push that social justice is inherent to the core of multiculturalism, and that you can't profess to have true multicultural diversity advocacy without social justice as an inherent and inseparable component of it. Some still see social justice as a side dish, separate and not inherent to the identity of multiculturalism. Without social justice, its bullshit tokenism, and there can be no social justice without economic justice.

chaunceydevega said...

@Weird. It is all about feelings and making sure you have enough token black and brown people--only one Asian though--on the cover of the school's recruitment materials.

Weird Beard said...

yah, that international student tuition money is savored and relished. It can cloud perceptions of even the basal tokenism they aspire too when you look at domestic diversity in programs vs. international diversity and if you control by looking at non-Asian diversity. Man the numbers there are sad. It even gets more amplified when you look at recruitment, retention, and promotion of faculty of color in tenure and head of department positions. They are quick to create some token parallels of participation to quell the masses without actually allowing a crack in the actual power structure. At the top of the ladder it still looks like Mad Men.

CNu said...

Well, it's kind of a start, but still MUCH too narrowly focused.

the election of the country's first black President is the death knell for justice claims about racial equality and redistribution.

Correct and beyond any doubt.

Part of this dynamic is a function of crude self-interest and anxieties about scarce resources in the Great Recession.

Onset of the Greatest Depression is just around that signpost up ahead. That ain't no joke, and, those fears are very well-founded. There are somewhere between 5.9 and 6.5 Billion too many humans.

This cat knows what's coming - because he knows quite well what has come before.

This is relevant and can serve to broaden the area of focus.

This is relevant to the longevity and duration of the processes in question.

This is the span and scope of the one-state in which civil wars will soon begin in earnest.

sledge said...

chaunceydevega said
"Piling on, how has this moment been perverted by white racial resentment and faux Right populism into one where a corporatist center right Democrat is skewered as a "Socialist" for not being even more slavish to the financier class?"


I think the Democrats being called socialists might have more to do with their membership in the Socialist Party of America than their lack of slavishness to the financier class.

This is the latest list I've seen. From 10/1/2009. Still it is quite alarming. Seeing as Socialism cannot coexist with the Constitution without bending moves that would make a yoga Guru jealous, one wonders how they were able to choke out their oaths of office.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/35733956/DSA-Members-American-Socialist-Voter-Democratic-Socialists-of-America-10-1-09



See : Who Are Members In Congress

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]Racism is an instinctive tool to capture resources and deny them to competitor "species." This is why Obama is backed by the Wall Street bankers. To them, he is a tool to safeguard their fortunes against the rising tide of public resentment[/quote]

My dear friend Chauncey DeVega:

I can accept that you believe that RACISM is the #1 force of threat to Black people.

What I don't get, however, is that this RACISM, in its deviousness, has looped around and put for a "Manchurian Candidate" that has now wooed Black people into supporting HIM so that they would end up CHEERING as "The Machine" continued doing its dirt around the world.......in the name of RACISM.


Brother DeVega - have you ever seen the picture of two mirrors placed opposite of each other and they project infinite images of themselves? Your argument has lost me in that same way.

I AM NOT ARGUING THAT YOU ARE WRONG.
My question is WHAT component of the Black Progressive Movement (which you are no doubt a part of) - which is WISE TO THE SCHEME, has been seen STANDING UP TO THE SCHEME?

To be clear, Brother Chauncey - I understand that YOU are "Chasing Racism" day in and day out. I am asking you to go beyond yourself.

IF OBAMA IS A COVER FOR RACISM.....can you show the ACTIVE movement among Black Progressives who are now necessarily going against ALL OF THE "RACISTS" including "Obama The Commander In Chief"?

Do you understand - brother - I am not always against you. I simply can't accept certain things on your terms, based on the road you have traveled prior to this present point of awareness.

Is Schultz and Popovich (Sp?) on board with this new consciousness that you have expressed? In as much as they advance Obama - are they racists too?

Is the group of Blacks who have failed to ORGANICALLY DEVELOP the Black Community - Non-White White Supremacists for failing to sufficiently develop our people at this time when they have control over our "Human Resource Development" institutions?

Jeffrey B. Perry said...

For a body of work that challenges the notion that "racism is an instinctive tool" I refer readers to the work of Theodore W. Allen. Writings by and about Allen can be found at http://www.jeffreybperry.net/_center__font_size__3__b_4__theodore_w__allen_br___with_audio_and_video_links____86151.htm


In particular, I would like to encourage people to look at the article, "The Developing Conjuncture and Insights from Hubert Harrison and Theodore W. Allen on the Centrality of the Fight Against White Supremacy" at that website.

Jeffrey B. Perry

Jeffrey B. Perty said...

For a body of work that challenges the notion that "racism is an instinctive tool" I refer readers to the work of Theodore W. Allen.


In particular, I would like to encourage people to look at the article, "The Developing Conjuncture and Insights from Hubert Harrison and Theodore W. Allen on the Centrality of the Fight Against White Supremacy" at that website.

Jeffrey B. Perry

Deb said...

@CNu...Damn! Just Damn!!! I went to each of those links you posted and I am just undone! (See sledge,contrary to what you were most certainly intimating, THIS was the reason for my comment on the other thread. Rather than bloviating, I prefer to own up to my lack of knowledge, sit back and learn from those who've something of susbtance to teach, and then twirl it around in my "old head" brain to make sure I've gotten it. But that's just me.)

Anyway CNu, I'm no EconDon (far from it!), but I did understand enough of this, what I call, "Quantitative Easing for Dummies" video - http://youtu.be/PTUY16CkS-k - to get that failing a mass awakening, we seem perpetually screwed. However, "the cat" at the 1st link laid it all out far better (and more depressingly) than I could have ever imagined!

The 2nd link served to assist in the afore-mentioned "twirling (buying the book!) and, if you don't mind, I'd like to use a couple sentences from your post at the 3rd link in a post I'm trying to finish, to bolster a point about a decision I made a couple years ago, that was based on a sort of Non-Econ revelation I had (nothing deep really - but it ties in with what I want to say).

And as for the 4th link, all I can say is "Hobson's Choice" - indeed!

Thanks for all that knowledge you dropped on this sorely mis-educated Sister today! Luckily, as long as I'm living - I'm learning...

@Constructive Feedback...Great questions!

nomad said...

"the power of aggrieved and subordinate groups to resist power and hegemony, and of course to force elite actors to respond to their justice claims" has been almost nonexistent for decades. In any case it has been dwarfed by the effectiveness of "those at the top [who] are adept at managing conflict as a means of serving their own narrow interests."

If you understand that imbalance you may avoid falling for the Obamacon in the first place. Hopefully the Obama deception will make us more sophisticated about the way elites use race to manipulate the citizenry. They played us well. Fool me once "I gotta hand it to ya". But fool me twice, shame on me. Obama is Bush in blackface.

CNu said...

Thanks for all that knowledge you dropped on this sorely mis-educated Sister today! Luckily, as long as I'm living - I'm learning...

That makes my whole and entire day, and sorry about being the bearer of bad news sis.

The way I figure it, the more folks who are aware of the source of these recurrent, cyclical dark ages, the more folk there will be who can intentionally brace themselves to better manage what's around that signpost up ahead.

What I always wonder is, how many times has this happened previously?

sabrinabee said...

Cnu, i have to say that frist link was interesting. I have never heard the American Revolution described as a London takeover. Also interesting was the link to the Roman empire, it's growth and the first and second fall. Is the author saying that the American Revolution was the first fall of America and that when this upcoming great depression hits there will be another? It seems as though it is where we are headed, rich versus poor, white versus black, christians versus pick-a-religion. Just curious. What do you suggest people do to shore up to weather what's to come? Also enjoyed the comments on the third link too. Interesting, discussion on corporation as subsitutes for the feudal system of slavery and company towns as psuedo plantations.

sledge said...

I too would like to hear CNu's thoughts on what lies ahead. I suspect that we may not be as far apart on some things as we seem to be on others.

I've thought about what a financial collapse (which seems inevitable) would mean to people and their way of life. But I'm starting to think that CNU may have carried it out even farther in time than I have.

Do you suggest that the U.S. could eventually go the way of Yugoslavia. Splitting up into different states or regions? With war for territory, genocide, division of different ethnic groups and religions, and the rest?

I don't think that even the Russian philosophers have thought out that far. The papers of theirs that I read indicated a division of from 7 to 12 autonomous regions. (Strangely similar to the plans the DHS came up with in the event of a National Emergency.)

What about the possibility of other countries through the UN stepping in to "stabilize the situation and bring order"?

I'm not looking to argue. I'm just looking for your view if you have spent time thinking that far ahead.

Deb said...

@nomad...Hey Bruh, how you doin'?? Been chasing you from the original "ironymous" to 1.0 to 2.0! Glad to see you got it sorta settled!

"Obama is Bush in blackface." Man, you ain't never lied (but we knew that all along, didn't we?).

@CNu.."That makes my whole and entire day, and sorry about being the bearer of bad news sis."

No problem, on both counts. As depressing as it all is, I'd rather know, than not know. However, the Changeling's, "Can't beat 'em, might as well join 'em!" bullsh*t, is hardly a choice I want to make.

"What I always wonder is, how many times has this happened previously?"

In my limited knowledge, and as I begin to connect the dots, I'd say beyond Africa, it's happened in this form, all throughout history. Speaks volumes, not only about the controllers - but the controlled as well, right?

Deb said...

@nomad...especially for you, from my favorite political cartoonist, Leon Kuhn: http://www.leonkuhn.org.uk/pclarge/bush_obama_gif.htm :D

nomad said...

@Deb
LOL!
I know. "Introducing new boss. Same as old boss."
Brilliant how they got blacks and other liberals to support Bush policies by putting a black face on it. Those PTBs are thinking lightyears ahead of us in mass control.

nomad said...

@Jeffrey B. Perry
Thanks for the link. "The Invention of the White Race". The greatest fraud ever perpetrated upon mankind.

CNu said...

Been reading the jawnt Parasitism and Subversion The Case of Latin America for a minute now - and it does a very good high-level job of providing a chatty overview of elite human livestock management.

I find that books written in the late 50's and early 60's by academics and investigative journalists tend to be by far the most incisive access points available for narratives that just dont seem to be taught any longer.

There's an almost gossipy quality to the non-fiction literature of this era that no longer seems to present or popular in contemporary non-fiction literature, as if a once popular "voice" or "perspective" has fallen into stylistic disfavor...,

CNu said...

Just curious. What do you suggest people do to shore up to weather what's to come?

Working with reliable, dependable others.

Beyond that, I don't.

Everyones knowledge, skill, ability and situation varies wildly. Because I'm a country boy in the mostly highly sprawled and heavily forested city in America, just 35 minutes away from rural agrarian expanses - my approach reflects my specific and carefully selected situation.

It has been my experience here-to-date that the overwhelming majority of folks cannot wrap their minds around the magnitude of the overall situation. Allow me to illustrate. In first decade of century 21, I spent 6 years on my own professionally and crashed and burned financially. Fortunately, my skills enabled me to land a job in this intensely contracting economy, in fact, a job in which I was able to continue a significant project I'd started on my own, and I've managed to flourish in that job ever since. Though the workforce in the agency by which I'm employed has been halved over the past three years, remaining, incumbent employees continue to shuck, jive, and grossly underperform as if the reaper would not or could not ever come for them. IN THIS ECONOMY!!!!!

If folks for whom NOVELS have been handwritten on their office walls can't see ANY of that local, personal, and immediate writing on their own walls, how much less for folks in general? The reason I emphasize this to your attention is that working with others is the key to "shoring up" - but finding and identifying those others is very challenging.

I recommend that you further steep yourself in the history and what it discloses about collective dynamics (without too much concern about race - remember - Grimm's fairy tales are grimmer than a don't know what, and have nothing whatsoever to do with racial dynamics) - As an exercise for your own edification, see if you can simply identify and relate with a half dozen other folks amenable to absorbing the meta narrative toward which I've pointed your attention. Do NOT form expectations for others, because you WILL be disappointed.

I've been at these studies for approaching 16 years, and persistently engaged in trying to prod individuals into consensual awareness for about a decade. I pride myself on being a fairly charismatic and persuasive guy, but this is far more than the ordinary sales job, and in any event, you don't want to have to convince anyone of anything - useful others will have already woken up to some of the handwriting - will have convinced themselves, and will be looking out for like-minded confederates.

CNu said...

(continued)

I am NOT a conventional doomsday prepper, I don't believe in hunker down and fortify. Rather, I'm more of a bugout bag, 1970's apocalypse fiction Eli. To extent of my ability, I've prepared for two equally plausible scenarios - with the foundational understanding that orderly civilization is ONLY 6 primary meals thick.

Fast Crash;
My own "solution" has amounted to knowledge transfer to my children of everything I know about survival.
I have taught my children to hunt, fish, and gather. Both are superb marksmen, pistol, rifle, airguns (which are perfect for hunting small game)
I have taught my children lethal (as opposed to sport) combat arts (sword, escrima, knife-throwing) - with 5 years of formal training in sword, each.

Slow Crash;
I've gradually substituted fruit bearing bushes and trees for the purely ornamental dreck in my fairly large yard.
I plan on going into a podponics venture with some young brothers from across the metroplex. (KC is the 2nd largest rail hub in the U.S. and we have fallow sea-containers out the yin-yang, and, we have the second lowest electrical utility costs in the U.S.)

I too would like to hear CNu's thoughts on what lies ahead.

A postponing/delaying action is being fought by public governance. They, like some of us, realize what's coming and don't really have any effective solutions to offer. What's coming here will vary from locality to locality, but the overarching conditions IMO will resemble what happened during the Argentinian collapse, but over a vastly prolonged period of time. (Great Depression)
As with the Great Depression, the only way out was world war, in my opinion, WW-III will make that look like a walk in the park.
Because we live in KC, home of the National Nuclear Security Administration, we're either gone in the first 45 minutes, or possibly not.

nomad said...

@ CNu
"They, like some of us, realize what's coming and don't really have any effective solutions to offer."

Hmmmm....
I wonder what the gummint would do if it knew such an event was on the horizon?

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/04/11/is-it-time-for-americans-to-take-up-arms/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=is-it-time-for-americans-to-take-up-arms

"we get a new law, it allows the government to arrest demonstrators at locations it deems “government related?” Are we talking Dick Cheney’s heart transplant party here? With no hard definition, this is martial law. Even with one, it is blatantly unconstitutional, same as with the NDAA.
Then the Supreme Court decides to allow police to strip search anyone, anywhere for any reason. If this isn’t considered unconstitutional, remember the language, “unreasonable search,” I don’t know what is?
Then we have the DHS, the Department of Homeland Security, a name I find offensive, buying 750,000,000 rounds of .40 cal hollow point ammunition. Who for?
Why?
Even the army can’t use it, their 9mm and hollow points are illegal, police don’t use them, the army can’t, but the DHS has enough to fight WW2 twice over and more. In fact, the ammunition being purchased in massive quantities is specifically designed, not to wound or even just to kill. It is designed to maim, to cause injuries that will eliminate any need for emergency treatment as the video above makes abundantly clear.
Nearly a billion rounds.
Why?
Sounds to me like someone is both afraid and planning something.

sledge said...

CNu I'm willing to bet you've read the account of of a young man of what life was like in Argentina after their crash and how he and his family survived. I wish I could remember his name.

I watched a bunch of vid's on Youtube about that Argentina crash and how it happened. I was stunned that a lot of the banking players that were involved in that are the same ones we're having problems with now. And our financial problems seem to be a larger copy of what happened to them.

Nomad I completely understand your concern about the DHS order of 450 million 40 cal HP's. I was like, IDK, maybe the FBI uses them for practice. But then I found out this order was in addition to what the FBI and several other ABC's ordered.

Add to all this the millions of body bags, millions of MRE's with 3 year expiration dates, mobile VIPR's and bullet proof checkpoints, and the scores of other odd purchases made recently during a period when the government has no money. Makes me just scratch my head.

The other strange thing lately is that the military has put out a requisition for surplus military ammo. All dealers are supposed to hold all surplus ammo purchased from the military. The military intends to purchase it back.

How does this make sense? Surplus ammo is ammunition that no longer meets military specifications due to age. It still shoots, but the military gets rid of it by selling to dealers by way of an auction to the highest bidder for individual lots.

Now the military wants to buy this ammo back from them. Why? Especially when the wars are supposed to be winding down.

The people at the top definitely know what's coming. Probably because they planned it.

sledge said...

sabrinabee I think CNu's advice on how to shore up is right on the money. See if you can find others with your same concerns. It's not as easy as it sounds. Most people have their heads in the sand just trying to get by in their lives day to day. They live by today's normalcy and expect it to last forever until a new normal arrives. They will be the ones begging the government to save them. They will be an extreme danger to anyone who has what they need to live.

Some say that individuals alone will have a better chance but they are not in the majority opinion. Personally, I think that in real life, Rambo dies. But if that's your only option it's better than not having any options. CNu mentioned the bug out bag. It's a just in case item. Last resort kind of thing. It would be good to look into it if you haven't already.

Learn skills that pertain to the necessities of life yourself as much as possible. Purifying water, growing plants and recognizing edible plants in your area, hunting, trapping, fishing, and storing food.

Also try to learn some old time cures for various common illnesses. It's amazing what our ancestors knew that we've let escape from common knowledge. Actually, many Latino's from Mexico still have and use this knowledge.

Just my two cents. I certainly don't know everything. But I am trying to learn.

sabrinabee said...

Well, thanks for that. I totally agree woth prepping as much as one can for any event. Having come in from toting about 20 bags of dirt weighing about 50 lbs each for my vegetable garden, i am right there with you on the slow crash front. I appreciate the suggestion to further my reading of collective dynamics. One of the reasons the article struck an interest with me was because it reminded me of a book I read by Jack London called The Iron Heel. Though it was fiction, it discussed similar types of dynamics. As one who is more willing to view art as an imitation of life and the reverse, i often view much of it as a blueprint to either a how-to or how it was/will be acheived, particularly when it involves the powers that be. It strikes me as a 'yes, we did it, and if you want to know how you'll have to buy a ticket to see the movie.' It is no coincidence that a certain political party is structuring it's budget around a fiction written by Ayn Rand. And you're right, any that are not of the elite are in the same boat no matter the race.

sledge said...

sabrinabee said..."Having come in from toting about 20 bags of dirt weighing about 50 lbs each for my vegetable garden"

Exercise and growing food too. It just doesn't get any better than that.


I might seem a little out there because I tend to question the reasons for just about everything.

All of the odd laws, Executive Orders, and regulations enacted in the past decade together with all of the odd purchases the Government has made. When looked at separately from each other, may not seem that disturbing.

But when you spread them across the kitchen table and see them as a big picture in one viewing. They make you say, "Oh my goodness, what are these guys doing?"

Then if CNu is correct about the potential for a WWIII. Not too much else is going to matter at that point. We'll all be in for it. Such thoughts make you want to hug your family members.

Weird Beard said...

http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/01/31/what-can-you-do-to-prepare-for-tough-times-ahead/

Here's some advice from Glenn Beck on preparing for the upcoming hard times as well. He seems to share some similar sentiments on this issue as many of you.

CNu said...

um..., thanks but no.

sledge said...

LOL! Oh man. I knew that was coming.

Deb said...

@sledge...LOL! Didn't know it ut I thought it might!

@CNU...Curiosity got the best of me and I went over there and surprise, surprise! As Weird Beard said, some similar sentiments - wouldn't count old Glenn as a "reliable other" though! Too funny!

Deb said...

ut=but

CNu said...

yeah, yeah, yeah..., LDS Preparedness has its own distinct basis and I'm not mad at'em.

That said, Glenn Beck is fundamentally just a peddler, but a peddler with a "special" pedigree, that leads me to discount anything emanating from his lying piehole.

Michael Ruppert is also to be avoided, while Dmitri Orlov, John Robb, John Michael Greer, James Kunstler are all aight - and the best of all was of course the late Joe Bageant.

Anonymous said...

CNU is out there waiting for the end of the world ..He ignores of course the reality priciple of other things always intervene to upset well laid plans of kooks and loonies..

I simply refuse to affirm CNU's nonsense WTF..

Constructive Feedback said...

Brother CNu:

(I should note before I get started - the biggest change in our relationship is not that we necessarily agree with each other any more than we previously did but we have stopped throwing grenades at each other - or at least this is my perspective).

I have a challenge question for you.

Take all that you have said about preparing for the inevitable and then cross reference that with what I viewed earlier today.

There was a conference on C-SPAN today entitled "Race and Politics". Health Secretary Katheryn Sabilious (sp?) stood before a room full of Black people and talked about all of the FREE stuff that ObamaCare was already providing to people, that up to 4M Black people who don't have health care insurance today will have it AND that the ENEMIES are at the gate already attempting to roll everything back to the way things were back in the 1950s.

If we can stay above the ideological and partisan battle and focus exclusively on how (what I interpreted as) "Dependency Marketing" to Black people in order to gain their favor in the context of the American Political system as their "Enemy" is enumerated - squares against your "GET PREPARED" strategy?

With my position being:
* If you don't see more physicians in your community
* If your community institutions are not training more people to provide these services
* If your people are not given a greater consciousness about how their lifestyle choices impact their health
* If your ability to procure insurance (or allow your 26 year old kids stay on your policies) are not couched by more FISCAL PRODUCTIVITY to back this scheme.............................YOU DID NOT RECEIVE "HEALTH CARE".
You have only gotten more attached to THE BEAST that - even you say - who's days are numbered as a fiscally solvent concern.

How do you convince a group of people that are being marketed to that their ENEMY is the lack of ORGANIC COMPETENCY DEVELOPMENT within their ranks AS WELL AS the two "Dung Producing Party Animals" that seek to ensnare their conscious attention span into American Politics when it needs to be on their self development?

CNu said...

these humans are no smarter than yeast, and will inevitably come to the same biologically determined collective end....,

CNu said...

How do you convince a group of people that are being marketed to

Bro. Feed,

HAAAAAARD as you been preachin this sermon lo these last several years - what do you have to show for it?

As for me, I DON'T EVEN TRY TO CONVINCE ANYONE OF ANYTHING. If you haven't read or are not capable of reading the writing on the wall.

Race appears to have a significant bearing on honest appraisal of our current situation.

sledge said...

Anonymous said...
"CNU is out there waiting for the end of the world ..He ignores of course the reality priciple of other things always intervene to upset well laid plans of kooks and loonies..

I simply refuse to affirm CNU's nonsense WTF.."

Non you have every right to look at any facts that you so desire and come to whatever conclusion that pleases you as to their meaning.

Just be aware that calling people kooks and loonies because they see more meaning in facts than you are able to see doesn't make it so.

One could argue that the man playing on the beach in front of an approaching tidal wave. Who goes about his life as if his future was certain might be called a loon by those who fled the beach.

sledge said...

Anon

sledge said...

CNu said...
"these humans are no smarter than yeast, and will inevitably come to the same biologically determined collective end....,"

and

"Race appears to have a significant bearing on honest appraisal of our current situation."


I hate to disagree with you because I know the hammer is going to drop shortly there after. LOL!

But I don't think it's a matter of race. I'm on several "prepper boards" trying to learn everything I can and there are a lot of people of color on them.

I think your yeast statement could very possibly come true but it won't be limited to any specific race.

CNu said...

sledge, name a black TEOTWAWKI known outside his/her immediate local circle?

THAT'S the issue.

Quite obviously we exist, but where are the role models when the overarching popular concern is with status-seeking and denial of the writing on the wall - beginning at the very top with the chief executive denialist?

sledge said...

CNu said...
"Quite obviously we exist, but where are the role models"

That is a great fricking question! I can't think of a single one in the black community.

I mean there are several black youtubers who do status reports and news updates on what is going on. I know there are a lot of black preppers. But I can't think of any who have taken it upon themselves to do basic survival training videos for the black community.

I've seen several done by black preppers who do vids showing their kit. (BOB's, weapons, food storage, and the like.)

I agree, many blacks will not watch a white guy show them how to purify water or store food in mylar bags and buckets. There is a need for a black leader to start throwing up vids on how to do this stuff.

Hey, what's holding "you" back? Throwing up videos on youtube is how most of the leading people have started. You have the knowledge. And you've got two sons to help make them. Then get some of the black ladies in there for the female perspective. They bring things to the table that the guys usually never think of.

Videos on weapons, which ones and for what reasons, purifying water, storing food, gardening, making a bug out bag, all the things that preppers study but with a black perspective they can identify with.

You said you were going to work with some other of your bro's in your area on a new food growing project. Video it and throw up an account on Youtube.

I'm a member on several sites and a moderator on one. You create it and I'll make announcements of a black training youtube channel for you. This is something that's really needed.

Think about it.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]Race appears to have a significant bearing on honest appraisal of our current situation.[/quote]

To the contrary - the lack of INSTITUTIONAL PROTECTION which allow the 'Embedded Confidence Men' to use the known draw of RACISM to have their way IS THE PROBLEM.

Within this is the notion of "Non-White White Supremacy" that I have identified.

CNu said...

Bro. Feed, since your niche concern has never acquired legs, mebbe you could just amp up and promote the detailed concrete solutions for organic competency development put forth by my man Ed Dunn?

Constructive Feedback said...

Please understand - my position is "you are never going to be able to save everyone - without causing the life raft that you have constructed to capsize as you try" - similar to what you have mentioned above.

I am not seeking to build up a congregation.

My arguments, graphs and mockups are open source for stealing and incorporation into other people's theories.

The best possible outcome for me (since I have no plan to compromise with a bigot) is for those who stand among the congregation that I criticize the most to take my work, strip off my acerbic disposition and repackage them for their own attempts to make change within.

(My friend Chanucey is suspiciously silent on this thread.)

nomad said...

"Non-White White Supremacy"

Yes. Anti-blackism is a disease from which blacks themselves are not immune. These black anti-blacks believe that blacks generally are niggers. They just see themselves as the rare exceptions.

@Constructive Feedback
(My friend Chanucey is suspiciously silent on this thread.)
I think CD has moved on.

CNu said...

I find this assertion erroneous and ridiculous;

Yes. Anti-blackism is a disease from which blacks themselves are not immune. These black anti-blacks believe that blacks generally are niggers. They just see themselves as the rare exceptions.

http://youtu.be/f3PJF0YE-x4

We ALL know who niggers are and it's long overdue time to repudiate and disown them. CDV calls them "ignants" and forthrightly disavows their monkey asses too.

The tragedy of tragedies is that Madison Ave. has extracted a huge cultural production fortune by making niggerishness the popular public face of blackness, international, worldwide...,

nomad said...

"We ALL know who niggers are"
Oh yeah? I don't think so. We know who we think they are. And we "know" they ain't "us".

CNu said...

lol, given that the most common pejorative description applied to me is "Malthusian"..., but we're not talking about the deep cull on this thread.

I grew up working class in a segregated hood I gladly left as soon as I could.

Having known and literally combatted genuine ignant niggerishness for my whole and entire life, I'd very much like to know exactly what it is that you're so deeply identified with and which you call yourself defending?

nomad said...

Who says I'm defending something? I made a statement: Anti-blackism is a disease from which blacks themselves are not immune. Which you found erroneous and ridiculous. So far, I have no idea why.

CNu said...

You seriously want to pretend that Chris Rock is anti-black and that you have no earthly idea wtf he's talking about?

nomad said...

No. I just don't know wtf you're talking about.

CNu said...

Click the link, watch the bit, and then pretend not to know exactly wtf I'm talking about http://youtu.be/f3PJF0YE-x4

Ain't nobody anti-black, but everybody hates...,

nomad said...

I watched the link, dude. If anything it supports my point. I have had racist (antiblack racism) bile spilled towards me from blacks who imagined me to be inferior as from white racists.The only difference was the color of the mouth from which it issued. As I said, we are not immune.

CNu said...

Quintessential Black Man

trifling-azz trigger

If the former catches or caught flack, that's an indisputable question/issue of racism.

If the latter catches flack, well - some books richly deserve to be not only judged by, but also dealt with according to their cover - I'm not seeing the racism angle.

Somebody dresses, talks, acts, and disfigures themselves along the lines of a professional clown, and then gets mad because they're treated like a clown, well, they're just plain stupid.

nomad said...

This must be addressed to somebody else, because it has very little to do with what I'm talking about.

CNu said...

Well instead of playing coy and mysterious, why don't you spell out exactly what you're talking about?

I've been checking fools hard and relentlessly on the "blacker-than-thou" front, precisely because I don't elect to extend the black partisan shield of shelter to folks who by their thoughts, words, deeds, set black folk back 300 years.

If your pants are on the ground, if there's a grill in your mouth, if you're covered with tattoos, if you don't have an education or a vocation and produce nothing of value, then...., um, uh, er, ah..., it's a little "extra" to be hollaring racism because the majority of society shuns and ostracizes you - IS WHAT I'M SAYING.

nomad said...

Yeh, and what u sayin' don't got much to do with what I'm saying. If you open your ears long enough you might hear. Instead of going off on that tangent. As if intra-racial racism doesn't exist. I used the term anti-black for discrimination against blacks by other blacks because I don't want to confuse it with what people usually mean by black racism (black discrimination against whites). What do you call blacks who discriminate against other blacks? Racist? Doesn't quite get to the heart of the matter. I'm talking about the antiblackism that can be found at all levels of the black community but literally oozes from black conservatives and phony black liberals. Like this guy. For all his racist policies yet still if we called him racist people would think us erroneous and ridiculous.

"The Obama administration’s indifference to the plight of foreclosed homeowners, and total subservience to the banks, is once again on public display. According to a report by the Special Inspector General of the TARP program, the administration has spent only a tiny fraction of the money it was allocated to help those most negatively impacted by the housing collapse. In two years, only a little over 30,000 households have been helped, at a cost of $217 million. That’s only 3 percent of the $7.6 billion TARP is authorized to spend through its Hardest Hit Fund.

No wonder most people think TARP – the Troubled Asset Relief Fund – is only concerned with bailing out the banks. The Obama administration has treated it that way, even though Congress intended a portion of that money to help homeowners recover from the damage the banks had done.



The Congressional Black Caucus begged Obama to target foreclosure relief funds to areas that were hurt worst by the meltdown – which overlaps with the geography of Black America. That’s what the $7.6 billion dollars in the Hardest Hit Fund was supposed to do. The Black Caucus was shamelessly betrayed by the First Black President. The homes of hundreds of thousands of their constituents could have been saved, but the Obama Team outright refused to spend money lying right there in the accounts. What will the Caucus do? Pretend that it never happened."...
http://blackagendareport.com

I made a statement: Anti-blackism is a disease from which blacks themselves are not immune. Which you found erroneous and ridiculous. So far, I have no idea why.

nomad said...

Yeh, and what u sayin' don't got much to do with what I'm saying. If you open your ears long enough you might hear. Instead of going off on that tangent. As if intra-racial racism doesn't exist. I used the term anti-black for discrimination against blacks by other blacks because I don't want to confuse it with what people usually mean by black racism (black discrimination against whites). What do you call blacks who discriminate against other blacks? Racist? Doesn't quite get to the heart of the matter. I'm talking about the antiblackism that can be found at all levels of the black community but literally oozes from black conservatives and phony black liberals. Like this guy. For all his racist policies yet still if we called him racist people would think us erroneous and ridiculous.

"The Obama administration’s indifference to the plight of foreclosed homeowners, and total subservience to the banks, is once again on public display. According to a report by the Special Inspector General of the TARP program, the administration has spent only a tiny fraction of the money it was allocated to help those most negatively impacted by the housing collapse. In two years, only a little over 30,000 households have been helped, at a cost of $217 million. That’s only 3 percent of the $7.6 billion TARP is authorized to spend through its Hardest Hit Fund.

No wonder most people think TARP – the Troubled Asset Relief Fund – is only concerned with bailing out the banks. The Obama administration has treated it that way, even though Congress intended a portion of that money to help homeowners recover from the damage the banks had done.



The Congressional Black Caucus begged Obama to target foreclosure relief funds to areas that were hurt worst by the meltdown – which overlaps with the geography of Black America. That’s what the $7.6 billion dollars in the Hardest Hit Fund was supposed to do. The Black Caucus was shamelessly betrayed by the First Black President. The homes of hundreds of thousands of their constituents could have been saved, but the Obama Team outright refused to spend money lying right there in the accounts. What will the Caucus do? Pretend that it never happened."...
http://blackagendareport.com

I made a statement: Anti-blackism is a disease from which blacks themselves are not immune. Which you found erroneous and ridiculous. So far, I have no idea why.

CNu said...

Alright Nomad, I been swinging elbows on "blacker-than-thou" progressives mad at me for the past two weeks for not uncritically supporting the Trayvon debacle and have been called a Tom, Coon, Porch Monkey and everything but a child of God, to which I've responded with devastating candor and good effect with my patented, trademarked, and copyrighted pejorative JIGGABOO.

Evidently there's no answer to/for that one. Folks just shocked at the outlandishness of it. In fact, one fool threatened me with bodily harm and put out his personal email address for me to get in touch with him to schedule my ass-whooping. That indiscretion on his part cost him his online anonymity and still more jiggabonic hilarity predictably ensued.

Anyway, for the same reason I refuse to uncritically support the Trayvon supporting side of what happened in FL as a purely racist hate crime, I'm also very hard pressed to look at the predatory abuses of the Obama administration as somehow specifically "anti-black" - THAT'S why I had no earthly idea what you were talking about.

There's no racial component to that, there's a purely "them what's got shall get, them what's not shall lose" component to that that is deeply disappointing wrt what it clearly shows the Hon.Bro.Preznit's moral and ethical center to be. Double-O is about as far removed from what people who voted for him hoped he would be that he is unrecognizable.

Anti-Black, nah, that's a stretch for me. Doing permanent and irrepairable damage to the Black brand, no doubt about that whatsoever. Obama in his own elite way has done more and more novel damage to the Black brand than any 10,000 ignants, pants on the ground, grills in they mouf, ignants could have ever hoped to have done.

sledge said...

LMAO! CNU has a special gift. Every once in awhile someone is born with a God given gift to gleefully, joyfully infuriate those who disagree with him. That post was too funny!

nomad said...

LOL, sledge, CNu.
You actually help me these nascent notions. It ain't just Obama. I'll probably have more to say about blackonblack racism later.

nomad said...

develop

CNu said...

Some people still think "the oppressed" refers to black people--and that's perfect.

They're supposed to.

nomad said...

@ CNu
"I'm also very hard pressed to look at the predatory abuses of the Obama administration as somehow specifically "anti-black" "

Well, maybe not specifically. Just generally.

"Under a purportedly “liberal” President whose children are actually descended from slaves, racist policies like wars, drug laws, extrajudicial killings, and economic disempowerment of the Lower Orders, vault forward unabated, despite previous (and now revealingly abandoned) rhetoric to the contrary. And the endgame of the neo-confederates, the final abolition of a century of hard-won civil and voting rights victories, now meet only desultory and half-hearted opposition from Obama’s “Justice” Department. Indeed, for 2012, his own party chose to hold its own convention below the Mason-Dixon line, in a state known for its corporate corruption and anti-labor practices.

If the arc of history ultimately bends toward freedom, it’s either a damned long arc, or it stopped bending somewhere around 1980."
http://firedoglake.com/2012/04/19/late-night-fdl-stars-and-bars/

CNu said...

The fact that a sizeable percentage of po black folk and ultimately federally employed black folk stand to be negatively impacted by the Hon.Bro.Preznit's policies - doesn't render these policies anti-black.

Rather, it means that black folks have not maneuvered into long term sustainable roles in the political economy.

The arc of history does not bend toward freedom, it is rocketing toward a darwinian threshing floor that will be merciless, relentless, and inevitable - black folk intent on surviving better just get ready.

Anybody intent on surviving had better busy themselves with robust self-preparation...,

nomad said...

"The fact that a sizeable percentage of po black folk and ultimately federally employed black folk stand to be negatively impacted by the Hon.Bro.Preznit's policies - doesn't render these policies anti-black."

I find this statement erroneous and ridiculous.

CNu said...

lol, ALL po folk fitna get the shaft, black po just disproportionate in numbers.

ALL public employees fitna get the shaft, black folk just disproportionately represented in those ranks.

I find it erroneous and ridiculous that folk who ought to know enough to know how things work, see racism where there's really nothing more pronounced than the inevitable anti-New Deal politics of the republicans since Ray-gun Version 3.0.

But then, it's far easier to manage credulous or clueless people overall.

Some people still think "the oppressed" refers to black people--and that's perfect.

They're supposed to.

nomad said...

@CNu
And on that tangential issue a la Chris Rock. The bullet holes in my house, the swing stolen off the porch, the deep tire track ruts across my front yard, the break ins, the shitty diapers thrown maliciously in my yard (one up in a tree! I still ain't figured out how they did that), flowers cut off my damn hydrangeas...
Yeah, I know who the niggers is. I just don't think most of the people who don't live in the ghetto know who they are. They keep mistaking them for me. I'll probably be doing a post about this.

nomad said...

I'm calling you CNut from now on.

CNu said...

rotflmbao...,

jiggaboo - you publicly representing on behalf of moon crickets who throw their little bastids' shitty diapers in your yard.

From what I can gather, your existence is already tantamount to hell-on-earth.

So if your meaningless online fucktardery makes you feel even just a little better about yourself, best believe Festas - it tickles me pink!

nomad said...

Finally. He called me jiggaboo. That's the one I been waiting for. Coming from CNut I take it as a compliment.

CNu said...

lol, called you "Festas" too, jiggaboo...,

nomad said...

jiggaboo - compliment.
Festas -not so much. Asholier.
http://zen-haven.dk/the-preacher-hood-of-wrongness/