tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post6982843604591348846..comments2024-03-22T20:34:13.792-05:00Comments on Indomitable | The online home of Chauncey DeVega: Crying While Listening to Moms Mabley Sing "Abraham, Martin, and John" on the 50th Anniversary of President Kennedy's AssassinationLady Zora, Chauncey DeVega, and Gordon Gartrellehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09138154899923808806noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-62586405729734980462013-11-29T23:55:08.531-06:002013-11-29T23:55:08.531-06:00Got to change the world one day at a time and one ...Got to change the world one day at a time and one person at a time. I appreciate that sharing too--racism is learned behavior; it is a legacy passed down from parents to children.chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-21169363346589223152013-11-29T23:54:26.653-06:002013-11-29T23:54:26.653-06:00How kind. I missed you post earlier. Thanks for sh...How kind. I missed you post earlier. Thanks for sharing the site and for commenting. Do keep writing and sharing and thinking and feeling.chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-103608795747473172013-11-26T10:08:49.936-06:002013-11-26T10:08:49.936-06:00Good day to you, Chauncey. I'm writing to than...Good day to you, Chauncey. I'm writing to thank you for your eloquent, soulful commentary on HBO's Moms Mabley special and what it says about our history, our lives, and what is in our hearts. I've shared that piece, and also your newly discovered (by me) blog with many friends . . . a great gift for the holidays with meaning, IMHO. I'll be reading!Eileennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-16789090148495298662013-11-23T04:51:54.659-06:002013-11-23T04:51:54.659-06:00It's great to hear how all of you got into rec...It's great to hear how all of you got into recognizing systemic inequality/oppression and problems people have with race in America.<br /><br />For me, I am white, my parents are white. My folks never talked race, mom might make some negative comment about Mexicans, and reminding me that I'm not really Mexican.<br /><br />My stepdad gave me lessons in racism I can never forget. I was probably about 8 or 9 years old when he would, seemingly at random, make comments about black and brown people. I always resented it. <br /><br />Then my dad also overtly identifies as a racist. Told me and my family that he thinks blacks should be put on a reservation or stop complaining. Told us he wouldn't tolerate us dating black people. Especially my younger sister.<br /><br />Now, white people want to tell you white racism is practically non-existent and in fact it is 'the blacks' who are more racist.<br /><br />I'm not playing those stupid games with these people any more.Bryan Orteznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-65293402057834521822013-11-22T21:42:21.125-06:002013-11-22T21:42:21.125-06:00It does seem as if no one cares any more, except f...It does seem as if no one cares any more, except for those busily working on reversing course for blacks, and that is scary. Observe a conversation about atrocities or genocide, in any medium, and <br /><br />African Americans and America doesn't even come up. The Holocaust will and that happened before the end of Jim Crow. Some will even say, "but that was so long ago." <br /><br /><br /><br />But, as I read the comments, it got me to thinking about my own views growing up in the 80's and no, this world of politics and racism, was not existent for me, then. And now, I want to know. So maybe there will be hope in the future.<br /><br /><br /><br />Will we have a hero for our times? it doesn't seem so. Our prominent faces back them were up front and center. Our prominent faces now are simply concerned with peddling their merchandise through a company who's employees have called police on black shoppers for being able to afford the merchandise. Or only coming out to endorse a politician based on a future promise, despite the fact that he came into office implementing policies that specifically hurt the community. And it worked! <br /><br /><br /><br />I can't imagine Harry Belafonte or Angela Davis doing anything like this.SabrinaBeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-67646741716330806302013-11-22T20:22:02.669-06:002013-11-22T20:22:02.669-06:00True that is. They had other black kids from othe...True that is. They had other black kids from other 'urban areas' (is that correct?LOL) so familiarity wasn't lacking. It was just different worlds. <br /><br />I'm a Lil' shocked by the Hughes reference only because since coming to WARN you seem to watch/listen to any & all, regardless of interest, even if only for the sake of debate, academics, etc. but I feel ya' none the less.Learning is Eternalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-50463166101469350572013-11-22T19:12:53.410-06:002013-11-22T19:12:53.410-06:00An having to do some bell hooks oppositional readi...An having to do some bell hooks oppositional reading to add some black and brown folks to that white fantasy. I still can't watch those white suburban whiteness of whiteopian dreaming John Hughes' movies.chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-77549127502748254012013-11-22T19:11:49.804-06:002013-11-22T19:11:49.804-06:00It hit me that way too. I listened, then memories ...It hit me that way too. I listened, then memories of too many gone friends came back. I also just found out that the older sister of my first "real" girlfriend died. We are the same age. Just makes you think. Mortality.chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-89941531345542210252013-11-22T14:56:01.748-06:002013-11-22T14:56:01.748-06:00"I also cried because, and this is the power ..."I also cried because, and this is the power of the song, of how Moms <br />Mabley asks if we have seen our old friends who have passed away. Where <br />have they gone?"<br /><br /><br />I watched this at work, and was ok until that line in the song. Then it was raining all over my face and I had to leave my desk and take a moment alone. I'll rewatch and finish that cry in the privacy of my own home tonight. So simple, and yet so powerful. <br /><br /><br /><br />Although I was a child of the nineties, I felt pretty similar and had similar experiences with racial progress. I've been subsequently schooled since high school that racism is alive and well just going through life. Thanks for sharing.vintagepeugeotnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-88866047676784940622013-11-22T13:12:50.659-06:002013-11-22T13:12:50.659-06:00I started posting more politically when Obama was ...I started posting more politically when Obama was elected. I couldn't handle the number of memes that came my way about him. <br /><br />My family would post things, then I would see all the racist ass comments.<br /><br />What was it you guys said in the podcast yesterday?<br />Provoke the other side into crossing a line to expose their agenda or belief system.. something like that.<br /><br />It has catapulted me into seeking out more voices and ideas to support my own political beliefs.Bryan Orteznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-32569952134858774482013-11-22T12:45:09.080-06:002013-11-22T12:45:09.080-06:00Embrace your true post racial self. Why you in den...Embrace your true post racial self. Why you in denial? You so old :)chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-58588225676248397492013-11-22T12:44:45.075-06:002013-11-22T12:44:45.075-06:00Politics is dead consumerism killed it by design i...Politics is dead consumerism killed it by design in a society where capitalism and democracy are equated in the minds of so many people. The rise of "lifestyle politics" i.e. proles who actually believe that buying a Mac or a PC is some type of "political choice", or alternatively twittering and facebooking as acts of "resistance" are the symptom and the problem.chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-74106067424021787112013-11-22T09:04:58.974-06:002013-11-22T09:04:58.974-06:00"At that age, with Michael Jackson on TV, Run..."At that age, with Michael Jackson on TV, Run DMC on the radio, and Lando Calrissian in Star Wars, I pushed away their correctives and guidance as old folks' talking who didn't know about what I intimately understood to be a new America...and all that racism stuff would be thrown into the dustbin, the trash of the past and our parents' "ancient" experiences."<br /><br /><br /><br />Man this was so me growing up. I too am a child of the 80's, went to mostly multicultural schools, and had a false sense of racial progress. I thought my parents were like soldiers with ptsd, jumping at every loud sound and calling it racism because they had been shell shocked by horrific experiences. Now I find myself realizing how much of a soldier of the status quo I am. My heart sinks when my two year old daughter sees a picture of a white girl with long hair and says "look daddy, princess!" I want her to know she's beautiful too, I don't want her to be brainwashed like I was.KissedByTheSunnoreply@blogger.com