tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post6414099492574983041..comments2024-03-22T20:34:13.792-05:00Comments on Indomitable | The online home of Chauncey DeVega: Shaping the Post-Charleston Narrative: 'Meet the Press' Channels Its Inner Dylann Roof by Showing Only Black Criminals in a Segment on Gun Control LawsLady Zora, Chauncey DeVega, and Gordon Gartrellehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09138154899923808806noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-80808319281343223572015-06-25T12:58:12.965-05:002015-06-25T12:58:12.965-05:00Chauncey, for more data on how incredibly bad main...Chauncey, for more data on how incredibly bad mainstream media is, and how figures like Todd are both aware and unaware of their complicity you should listen to <a href="http://www.slate.com/articles/podcasts/the_moment/2015/06/chuck_todd_gets_candid_about_politics_washington_and_the_death_of_his_father.html" rel="nofollow">this interview of Chuck Todd, by Brian Koppelmen from a couple weeks ago.</a> It makes the fustercluck of last Sunday even more comprehensible and infuriating.TenarDarellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-62477138707504176152015-06-22T23:50:43.929-05:002015-06-22T23:50:43.929-05:00I just picked up Suiciders. Its okay its nothing o...I just picked up Suiciders. Its okay its nothing original. Think Escape from LA mixed with Mad Max Thunderdome. I'm big into Invincible. In the last few months I've read Manta Magi. It was a fun read featuring a black Neo archetype. I love reading XO-Manowar, Big Man Plans and the Goon. Those are my favs. My favorite reads always seem to involve a lone protagonist seeking some sort of revenge.INDYOO7noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-1268649555944902162015-06-22T16:25:02.357-05:002015-06-22T16:25:02.357-05:00The most charitable interpretation is that it is a...The most charitable interpretation is that it is a kind of appeasement, that they did it to avoid all the criticism they would get from the racist wingnuts. That wouldn't be an excuse anyway, but I don't buy it for a second. Their corporate masters are all about stoking the rage of the angry white racists. The other part of that is fear mongering about scary foreign terrorists so that we will feed the war machine. They are sowing the wind but unfortunately plan on having others reap the whirlwind.OldPolarBearnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-13913762497494362922015-06-22T14:54:46.532-05:002015-06-22T14:54:46.532-05:00So my question is, what was SO important that they...So my question is, what was SO important that they would knowingly violate their own professional standards, as it were, to air that segment? What did they see would be the upside to it? But most of all, did no one think the risk would be what happened? <br /><br />It really paints MTP and NBC in a very bad light. If this was all played straight, at best this shows Todd is really in over his head. A more seasoned journalist with integrity wouldn't have done that.<br /><br />Or, and I don't even need a tinfoil hat for this, the blowback was worth the misdirection.Gable1111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-89765272523740419322015-06-22T14:20:35.745-05:002015-06-22T14:20:35.745-05:00In Todd's response to the criticism, he actual...In Todd's response to the criticism, he actually admits that they thought and talked about it and knew it was wrong and inappropriate. They violated their <i>own</i> programming judgment and standards, such as they are, to do this.OldPolarBearnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-59477809660993798922015-06-22T13:18:19.616-05:002015-06-22T13:18:19.616-05:00He does work for the New York Times. Another "...He does work for the New York Times. Another "designated left" media outlet.seeknsanitynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-46580878388299263932015-06-22T12:52:54.273-05:002015-06-22T12:52:54.273-05:00Like you say, we know racist media propaganda when...Like you say, we know racist media propaganda when we see it but what of the uninformed demographic that is the very target group of the propaganda? We can only hope that such rancid racist red meat will be regurgitated and be an ah ha moment for the ignorant.joe manningnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-17474927595213945332015-06-22T12:42:32.772-05:002015-06-22T12:42:32.772-05:00There has never been a doubt in my mind what they ...There has never been a doubt in my mind what they were up to.drspittlenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-69425719018466965772015-06-22T12:30:24.165-05:002015-06-22T12:30:24.165-05:00I stopped watching MTP years ago to maintain my sa...I stopped watching MTP years ago to maintain my sanity. But with this the show has reached a new low. Todd disingenuously introduced the segment as "diverse" which was sickening in itself. <br /><br />If there was any doubt before that the media is fanning the flames and is all in with the racists, we can disavow ourselves of that now.Gable1111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-38355194796286871602015-06-22T12:21:07.921-05:002015-06-22T12:21:07.921-05:00I can't imagine any competent journalist or st...I can't imagine any competent journalist or staff making the decision to air that piece on Sunday, even if it had, as they said (and I don't believe it) been made long before Wednesday's shooting, if their intent wasn't for it to have the effect it obviously did. <br /><br />Given what the killer said in that absolutely wicked "manifesto" of how he came to believe that blacks were "raping our women" and otherwise committing crimes against whites, and this then led to him to his beliefs, why in the world would you show a piece like that, which gives the impression that murderers are typically black? Unless that was the intent and even giving any benefit of doubt there could possibly benefit of doubt, any reasonable person could come to the conclusion this was intentional.<br /><br />I'm glad Robinson was thereGable1111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-27375004988863102742015-06-22T11:03:35.387-05:002015-06-22T11:03:35.387-05:00AS USUAL...you are on point. Keep on bringing that...AS USUAL...you are on point. Keep on bringing that truth.rikyrahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-62042478503877162182015-06-22T10:55:46.503-05:002015-06-22T10:55:46.503-05:00The speed and gleefulness with which members of th...The speed and gleefulness with which members of the corporate media have tried to make this horrific crime about anything other than race (while, of course, making it very much about race -- thanks, Chuck Todd) has been astounding.<br /><br />Even more surprising to me is Paul Krugman's column in the New York Times today: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/22/opinion/paul-krugman-slaverys-long-shadow.html<br /><br />Krugman is generally on the right side of things here, but what amazes me is the extent to which he feels compelled to pussyfoot around the issue. He pointedly asserts at both the beginning and end of his column that the US is "much less racist" than it used to be. And before getting into the details of how racism continues to shape American life in the form of racist policy and politics, he takes time to say: "Of course, saying this brings angry denials from many conservatives, so let me try to be cool and careful here, and cite some of the overwhelming evidence for the continuing centrality of race in our national politics."<br /><br />This is absolutely shocking to me. As any regular reader of Krugman knows, he makes no bones whatsoever about calling out idiotic, failed economic policies. Indeed, he takes pride in the fact that many members of the Very Serious media consider him "shrill" and unfair for not presenting "both sides" of a given issue with the supposedly appropriate balance. A more typical Krugman caveat on economic matters would be, "Of course, saying this brings angry denials from many conservatives, but these people are either lying demagogues or simply don't know what they're talking about." That he feels the need to assert that he will "try to be cool and careful" in today's column demonstrates pretty clearly just how much having a frank and honest discussion of American racism still constitutes a "third rail" in the public sphere. It's a minor thing, perhaps, but such language is extremely telling, especially from someone like Krugman.Jim Wagnernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-7753614000854631332015-06-22T09:16:36.159-05:002015-06-22T09:16:36.159-05:00I don't know CD. Even after, after it had take...I don't know CD. Even after, after it had taken place, it seems like there was not even a moment of reflection. No remorse, for not knowing, and about a shred of empathy for the victims because, "Y'all weren't the target..." WHAT?!! I'd sure like to know his back story, including comments from mom and/or dad.seeknsanitynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-32731478234086107352015-06-22T01:38:27.496-05:002015-06-22T01:38:27.496-05:00Don't want to look in that sewer. As if a surp...Don't want to look in that sewer. As if a surprise white supremacists have been donating money to GOP candidates. Duh.<br /><br />http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2015/06/21/gop-campaign-donations-linked-white-supremacist/WRKzGXlawv3xMbwuO0LfKL/story.html?s_campaign=bostonglobe%3Asocialflow%3Atwitterchauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-14619605393011059082015-06-22T01:37:49.654-05:002015-06-22T01:37:49.654-05:00Lots of folks have recommended it. Catching up on ...Lots of folks have recommended it. Catching up on Saga and loving Southern Bastards and Manifest Destiny. What are you reading?chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-75944410330906554082015-06-22T01:37:22.985-05:002015-06-22T01:37:22.985-05:00That interview was unbelievable. How did we go so ...That interview was unbelievable. How did we go so wrong?chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-18774939005312502912015-06-21T22:06:17.585-05:002015-06-21T22:06:17.585-05:00And he works on the supposedly designated left cha...And he works on the supposedly designated left channel. They are always so desperate to shift the focus back to black crime, and black on black murders but, never going deep enough to determine just how these military grade weaponry and, illegal narcotics are finding their way into to communities where over three quarters of them don't have a passport or the means to travel. That might actually expose that the crack cocaine drug scandal of the 80's wasn;t just a one-off event, but a sustained and ongoing effort.<br /><br />It's as if blacks shouldn't complain when they are victims of racism. They are not even bothering to keep track, <br /><br />http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/06/19/there-are-260000-hate-crimes-in-america-each-year-why-does-the-fbi-think-there-are-only-6000/?wpisrc=nl_headlines&wpmm=1<br /><br />The problem might just be that as this article put it,<br /><br />http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/31465-we-were-never-meant-to-survive-a-response-to-the-attack-in-charleston<br /><br />Anyway, the BBC interviewed the black friend who didn't know that his friend is a racist.<br /><br />http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-33209654<br /><br /><br /><br />If this kid is any indication the future for blacks is bleak.seeknsanitynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-6514555871518870062015-06-21T18:19:18.244-05:002015-06-21T18:19:18.244-05:00Always so insightful as always Chauncey. So on a c...Always so insightful as always Chauncey. So on a completely unrelated topic, have you ever read Invincible by image comics?INDYOO7noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-89953290029597874552015-06-21T17:23:57.053-05:002015-06-21T17:23:57.053-05:00Slightly O.T. though relevent.. Check out how Redd...Slightly O.T. though relevent.. Check out how Reddit is posting about Charles Whitman the man who with a sniper rifle shot 32 people and killed 16 at the University of Texas in 1966. This killers birthday is on June 24th, many of the posts are very sympathetic to Whitman.. VERY disturbing.<br /><br />http://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/duplicates/3am70h/til_that_charles_whitman_the_texas_tower_shooter/Lewis Ornenoreply@blogger.com