tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post639760825676825264..comments2024-03-22T20:34:13.792-05:00Comments on Indomitable | The online home of Chauncey DeVega: Shakespeare's Julius Caesar and the Age of ObamaLady Zora, Chauncey DeVega, and Gordon Gartrellehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09138154899923808806noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-62169191622151083922013-05-26T07:19:20.223-05:002013-05-26T07:19:20.223-05:00Eight years of darkness would suffice:
"Imag...Eight years of darkness would suffice:<br /><br />"Imagine if at some point during the 1990s or 1980s the President of the United States had given a speech. And this was his speech:<br /><br />My fellow Americans, I've been regularly shooting missiles into people's houses in several countries. I've wiped out families. I've killed thousands of people. Hundreds of them have been little children. <br /><br />I've killed grandparents, wives, daughters, neighbors. I've targeted people without knowing their names but because they appeared to be resisting an occupation of their country. I've killed whoever was too near them. Then I've shot another missile a few minutes later to kill whoever was trying to help the victims. <br /><br />I don't charge these people with crimes. I don't seek their extradition. I don't even try to kidnap them. And I don't do this to defend against any imminent threat. I don't make you safer by doing this. It goes without saying (although the people in the countries I target keep saying it) that I'm generating more new enemies than I'm killing. But I urge you to remember this: All but four of the people I've killed have been non-U.S. citizens.<br /><br />So here's what I'm going to do for you": http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/mike-friends-blog/memorial-day-thisBen Grimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-38353660856659520422013-05-26T03:04:39.342-05:002013-05-26T03:04:39.342-05:00Unless he chose to live in the dark his whole life...Unless he chose to live in the dark his whole life.chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-90533211416160255102013-05-26T00:44:03.398-05:002013-05-26T00:44:03.398-05:00That's about it, And if a man who chose to liv...That's about it, And if a man who chose to live in the dark opened his eyes, he still wouldn't be able to see.Ben Grimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-66275235154576336682013-05-25T21:09:42.606-05:002013-05-25T21:09:42.606-05:00Obama is a centrist Republican. I have said that m...Obama is a centrist Republican. I have said that many times. He has been obstructed by a party that believes in destroying normal politics and governance. There is some solid empirical data on this--which is why the Republicans made the move to defund political science research.<br /><br /><br />Racial identity politics is part of that game. <br /><br /><br />Obama has also surrendered on many issues to give cover to what he has actually wanted to do--chained cpi, tax policy, etc. etc.<br /><br /><br />I don't need narratives about fixed social security numbers and manchurian candidate stuff to figure that out. <br /><br /><br />What other great conspiracy theories do you have to share with the public? Open our eyes!!!chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-58062540325554618052013-05-25T21:06:08.201-05:002013-05-25T21:06:08.201-05:00I have never found that issue particularly relevan...I have never found that issue particularly relevant. What is relevant is his use of multiple identities and social security numbers. If the people that vetted him didn't think that was an issue then I can only assume he's one of them. In addition he comes from a family of career CIA people. Do the math. As I said the scenario doesn't necessarily have to be as grim (though it's still sinister) as the one I depicted. Obama could have come by his CIA career path by ordinary workaday means. Blazee, blazee. But he's still a product of the CIA. Just like Bush I and Bush II. Or maybe their connections are conspiracy theory too.<br /><br />Your casting Obama as a hapless victim of obstructionist racist Republicans just doesn't work anymore. He's pulled the same trick too many times. The Republicans did not force him to cut a deal with the insurance companies before the healthcare debate even began, adopting the individual mandate and rejecting the public option. The Grand Bargain and the preservation of the Bush Tax cuts was completely unforced, as was the cutting of the Social Safety net and the Sequestration scheme. All the acts of a person doing the opposite of things he would do if he were trying to win. If you don't know he's a Trojan Horse by now you are as I said, a true believer, Your views on Obama is akin to religion. His PR (brainwashing) program has been successful. As for me, I modestly dissent. Please, public, I know that somehow it has been made to seem that black America is proud of and stands behind Barack Obama and the things that he does, but please, I modestly dissent. He has nothing to do with the things I believe in. He does not represent me. I am quite happy to let him be a president that happens to be black and a president whose relationship to black people is of no consequence. Please, think of him as you would any white president. That's as bout as much relationship as I feel for him --the same as I would feel for any white president. His color is of absolutely no consequence, to me, whatsoever.Ben Grimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-39537458959450211172013-05-25T19:21:08.520-05:002013-05-25T19:21:08.520-05:00Stop playing. I am open to many alternative theori...Stop playing. I am open to many alternative theories about the hows and why of current and historical events. Believe it or not some folks have said I am "crazy" and a believer in "conspiracies" because of some of my perspectives. You can dig beneath the surface and fight against the approved narrative w.o. buying into narratives about Manchurian Candidate CIA trained Barack Obama. Do you also not believe he is a U.S. citizen?chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-184035237031438872013-05-25T17:12:45.066-05:002013-05-25T17:12:45.066-05:00You normalized folk tickle me pink. Notice that yo...You normalized folk tickle me pink. Notice that you haven't said nothing but that doesn't fit your sense of the way things work. That's because you have yet to overcome your programming. And I don't, for the life of me, see why not. You've got the freakin internet fergawdssake! Look up, man! See the freakin chemtrails! The psychopathic folks who can do that are capable of anything! Oh, I know, I know. That's just crazy conspiracy theory. Uh huh. Folks like you are what enables this shit. You're capable of research, but only on officially sanctioned subjects. Hence you're just gonna be used by these control freaks. You're going to enable them. That's why folks like Obama can literally get away with murder.Ben Grimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-2768345910779270462013-05-25T14:35:22.644-05:002013-05-25T14:35:22.644-05:00Really? Was he trained like the girl in the movie ...Really? Was he trained like the girl in the movie Hanna? <br /><br /><br />When we seek out conspiracies we ignore the day-to-day plots and realities right in front of us.<br /><br /><br />ODS is a dangerous condition; get help :)chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-39313221267767219062013-05-25T10:35:30.381-05:002013-05-25T10:35:30.381-05:00Well, the scenario doesn't originate with me. ...Well, the scenario doesn't originate with me. Insearchofblackassassins does make a credible presentation, nevertheless. I nor he nor anybody outside of the higher echelons of secret security state can know for sure. Whether the origins of Obama is as strange as all this, one thing seems fairly certain: he is a product of the CIA. Even if by more mundane means.Ben Grimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-60364180200464428902013-05-25T02:13:41.422-05:002013-05-25T02:13:41.422-05:00Excuse me! I need to do me more reading. So very t...Excuse me! I need to do me more reading. So very timely and insightful.chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-71212282048518114852013-05-25T00:10:24.156-05:002013-05-25T00:10:24.156-05:00"After such knowledge, what forgiveness? Thi..."After such knowledge, what forgiveness? Think now<br />History has many cunning passages, contrived corridors<br />And issues, deceives with whispering ambitions,<br />Guides us by vanities. Think now<br />She gives when our attention is distracted<br />And what she gives, gives with such supple confusions<br />That the giving famishes the craving. Gives too late<br />What's not believed in, or if still believed,<br />In memory only, reconsidered passion. Gives too soon<br />Into weak hands, what's thought can be dispensed with<br />Till the refusal propagates a fear. Think<br />Neither fear nor courage saves us. Unnatural vices<br />Are fathered by our heroism. Virtues<br />Are forced upon us by our impudent crimes.<br />These tears are shaken from the wrath-bearing tree."<br /><br />T.S. Eliot, "Gerontion"Sujatanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-77315813268887184452013-05-24T23:18:32.216-05:002013-05-24T23:18:32.216-05:00He's pretty good. He justifies anyone's l...He's pretty good. He justifies anyone's liberal arts degree.Vic78noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-87135102053039061402013-05-24T22:50:33.271-05:002013-05-24T22:50:33.271-05:00Good choice. I need to reread that--it has been to...Good choice. I need to reread that--it has been too long.chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-38415314645378534442013-05-24T22:50:06.849-05:002013-05-24T22:50:06.849-05:00Goodness. You need to write up that script and get...Goodness. You need to write up that script and get it made into a graphic novel or online cartoon.chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-25430396726998106572013-05-24T18:42:56.257-05:002013-05-24T18:42:56.257-05:00I'm going to have to go with Emerson's Sel...I'm going to have to go with Emerson's Self Reliance. I've been learning to trust myself more. My initial judgements have been on point enough to go with it.Vic78noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-15718511872638752572013-05-24T17:13:53.474-05:002013-05-24T17:13:53.474-05:00OK. I'll play.
To answer the question: What p...OK. I'll play.<br /><br />To answer the question: What prose calls out to you as an apt description of the Age of Obama? The Shakespearean play that captures the essence of this Faustian demagogue is Macbeth: 'the Scottish lord who chooses evil as the way to fulfill his ambition for power.'Ben Grimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-20510944344119458682013-05-24T12:12:15.638-05:002013-05-24T12:12:15.638-05:00Fitting.Fitting.chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-29568925935659945052013-05-24T09:25:57.438-05:002013-05-24T09:25:57.438-05:00William Butler Yeats: "The best lack all conv...William Butler Yeats: "The best lack all conviction, while the worst/ Are full of passionate intensity."MaryKnoreply@blogger.com