tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post5770158920522226609..comments2024-03-22T20:34:13.792-05:00Comments on Indomitable | The online home of Chauncey DeVega: Teaching is a Political Act: The Brave Adjunct Lecturer Who Invited the Murderous White Nationalist Frazier Glenn Miller to Speak to His StudentsLady Zora, Chauncey DeVega, and Gordon Gartrellehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09138154899923808806noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-68447752863553659752014-04-30T16:10:08.871-05:002014-04-30T16:10:08.871-05:00Thank you for the kind words. We don't cause e...Thank you for the kind words. We don't cause eye gouging just headaches :)chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-50622358005396944352014-04-30T14:30:54.745-05:002014-04-30T14:30:54.745-05:00Ahh. I could read this blog all day...and I will. ...Ahh. I could read this blog all day...and I will. Shameful to say I was reading the Root up until two years ago when I decided it'd be better to gouge my eyes out.obscureferencenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-43528711190202824642014-04-17T17:35:35.681-05:002014-04-17T17:35:35.681-05:00On April 15, Rachel Maddow began her show with a l...On April 15, Rachel Maddow began her show with a list of terror acts perpetrated by domestic right wing groups. She was perplexed by the rejection Homeland Security received when it issued a report in 2009 that hate groups were escalating. If you recall the loudest detractors were the Republican Party. The Mainstream Media in its ongoing position as firewall for the Republican Party made light of the report and quashed it. Homeland Security did not pursue the matter any further.<br /><br />For a moment Rachel appeared to be exercising some courage on this subject. That is, until she invited her expert guest on. His name is Michael Leiter. Who? Never heard of him! Well, he was previously head of the United States National Counterterrorism Center, under the Bush Administration. He remained in the position under the Obama Administration until 2011. A look at his Wikipedia page under controversy reveals he wasn't so great. And, considering his answer to Maddow for muffling the report, that seems to be a reality. He said, and I am paraphrasing, <br /><br />Here is an exchange between Leiter and Maddow:<br /><br />MADDOW: So you were at the Counterterrorism Center when this report in <br />2009 from Homeland Security on right-wing extremism, it was -- it was <br />produced and then leaked and never finally reported. Do you remember what <br />was going on around that report at the time? <br /><br /><br /><br />LEITER: I do, very well. The fact is that people in the U.S. government <br /><br />and the counterterrorism community really were worried about right-wing <br /><br />extremism. And the report talked about some of those factors. Frankly, <br /><br />the report also used what I would consider really bad, sloppy language and <br /><br />some bad analysis about some other things, like the potential for returning <br /><br />vets to become right-wing extremists. <br /><br /><br /><br />And that raised the ire of many in Congress, especially in the right, <br /><br />stating that the Department of Homeland Security shouldn`t be in the <br /><br />business of looking at people like veterans and anyone else for purely <br /><br />political views and why those weren`t terrorists, those were patriotic <br /><br />Americans. <br /><br /><br /><br />MADDOW: In terms of recognizing the threat from right-wing extremist <br /><br />groups, though, did the backlash to that report, the fact that it was never <br /><br />even released in any other form, should we read that as essentially the <br /><br />government getting shy about identifying this as a real threat? Because <br /><br />they were worried about that backlash? <br /><br /><br /><br />LEITER: And there is no doubt that when Congress reacts very, very badly <br /><br />to something the executive branch does, it makes people gun shy. And I <br /><br />don`t want to say that people stop looking at right-wing extremism. I <br /><br />think Aryan Nations and other associated groups, a lot of the ones you`ve <br /><br />mentioned, the intelligence community, the Department of Homeland Security, <br /><br />the FBI, still did focus on them.skilletblondenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-13006893507146049832014-04-17T10:24:58.831-05:002014-04-17T10:24:58.831-05:00Yes, it cuts both ways. Its basically a mental hea...Yes, it cuts both ways. Its basically a mental health question: should white supremacists who repeatedly threaten violence be institutionalized? In the case of Frazier Glenn Miller the answer is yes, he should have been.joe manningnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-24573472864632875352014-04-17T09:55:26.433-05:002014-04-17T09:55:26.433-05:00If he's given a platform which stipulates that...If he's given a platform which stipulates that there is a 50/50 balance between his views and opposing views, as is corporate media s.o.p. it would be, and is, a travesty. But I think its abundantly clear that the KKK guest lecturer on campus (excluding Oral Roberts U.) is an outlier and liar. A case in point is Frazier Glenn Miller, who we wouldn't known already if not for his public appearances. Such high profile white supremacists are crying out for help.joe manningnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-13999218046985166492014-04-16T21:45:40.644-05:002014-04-16T21:45:40.644-05:00Didn't Myth Busters test that one?Didn't Myth Busters test that one?chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-57152102691734398202014-04-16T20:58:38.767-05:002014-04-16T20:58:38.767-05:00You can only try to polish a turd if it's been...You can only try to polish a turd if it's been frozen. Don Black's comments sound like he's in the process of transferring the turd from the dog's ass to the freezer.Miles_Ellisonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-47600513771158722862014-04-16T18:08:53.630-05:002014-04-16T18:08:53.630-05:00Sometimes you just need to look at Influenza unsde...Sometimes you just need to look at Influenza unsder a microscope in the lab to learn about it. It's not something you want to expose people to everyday, but in the proper Petri dish, it can be a helluva a learning vector.DanFnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-54738944695539968742014-04-16T15:16:48.924-05:002014-04-16T15:16:48.924-05:00Like when I pointed out that Clarence Thomas was a...Like when I pointed out that Clarence Thomas was an Uncle Tom I was called a racist. Duh!joe manningnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-77267823464654734152014-04-16T13:58:41.948-05:002014-04-16T13:58:41.948-05:00Thanks for the book suggestion. How dare you sugge...Thanks for the book suggestion. How dare you suggest that the White Conservative Citizens Council and the Birchers have some relationship to the Kochs, Freedom Works, and the astroturf useful idiots the Tea Party? Or that the neo CSA Republicans are racist! How dare you! You are the real racist!!! <br /><br /><br />Somewhere a fool is saying just that...chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-36306691919674389392014-04-16T13:57:18.307-05:002014-04-16T13:57:18.307-05:00I hope not. I would not be surprised. You need to ...I hope not. I would not be surprised. You need to protect the snowflakes from the truth at all times.chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-26881325711087371502014-04-16T13:56:44.953-05:002014-04-16T13:56:44.953-05:00Sometimes we have a grand chorus other times a nic...Sometimes we have a grand chorus other times a nice intimate conversation. There is a question here too regarding radical politics--do we create a space for these types in the public sphere to monitor them because light is a great sanitizer or do we/the state stamp them out because of how noxious and dangerous they are? The UK and other other countries are grappling w. that in regards to radical political Islam.chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-3809635261827811272014-04-16T09:00:20.608-05:002014-04-16T09:00:20.608-05:00“From the news reports, it seems that none of his ...“From the news reports, it seems that none of his victims were even Jewish. [...] It was bad enough when it looked like he had targeted and killed Jews, but the fact that he didn't even do that is really kind of weird and suspicious”<br /><br /><br /><br />It sounds like StormFront cares more about his lack of competence than his morally reprehensible behavior. How unshocking. <br /><br /><br />What Prof. Embree did is why tenure is important. I'm glad Prof. Embree was supported by the administration, but this is a huge risk for an adjunct to take. Hopefully in light of the shootings, the admins will still get his back - but I'm sure if someone complains loud enough, he's gone.DanFnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-92086635404868666232014-04-16T07:24:59.639-05:002014-04-16T07:24:59.639-05:00Surprised no one has commented.
I would wonder if...Surprised no one has commented.<br /><br />I would wonder if getting speaking opportunities for these types would inflate their ego and sense of importance and righteousness. I would hope there would be opportunities for the teacher and maybe even the students to dismantle their world view in front of them. I agree that education should take more bold steps and confront an array of worldviews in the classroom.Myshkin the Idiotnoreply@blogger.com