tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post5716956934805648239..comments2024-03-17T20:04:18.872-05:00Comments on Indomitable | The online home of Chauncey DeVega: The Walking Dead's Episode "Clear" Reviewed: Unlike Rick, Black Men Go Crazy When Faced wth ZombiesLady Zora, Chauncey DeVega, and Gordon Gartrellehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09138154899923808806noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-39289895173896729062013-03-06T22:24:51.832-06:002013-03-06T22:24:51.832-06:00True. And that is the problem.True. And that is the problem.Miles_Ellisonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-37209953928196379712013-03-06T21:21:27.839-06:002013-03-06T21:21:27.839-06:00Tyler Perry > than Frank's Place in many a ...Tyler Perry > than Frank's Place in many a home. Never mind Rock. Great stuff from Brother Dutton.chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-31185574389943233592013-03-06T20:07:37.856-06:002013-03-06T20:07:37.856-06:00And it probably also shows that neither black nor ...And it probably also shows that neither black nor white people will watch a show with three dimensional black characters that aren't stereotypes.Miles_Ellisonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-64322021090628952562013-03-05T19:30:44.084-06:002013-03-05T19:30:44.084-06:00Well, you know blacks mental states are fragile. A...Well, you know blacks mental states are fragile. AH and Micchonne, someone has to look out for the "lil white chi'ren" after of course chomping on food like a horse. But, then apparently they had her waiting around for the role. This strong zombie hunter black woman who has survived out in the wild alone was relegated last week to make a home in an overturned prison truck. I know you saw that.SabrinaBeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-51183128324321395492013-03-05T14:24:49.326-06:002013-03-05T14:24:49.326-06:00All about the money. The writers know that researc...All about the money. The writers know that research suggests that white audiences will not watch a show or movie with "too many" non white characters.chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-40302822644782160552013-03-05T14:00:26.152-06:002013-03-05T14:00:26.152-06:00I don't buy the argument that the writers don&...I don't buy the argument that the writers don't know what they're doing in portraying the black characters. Writing takes courage. The architect Frank Loyd Wright said "The only thing more timid than a million dollars is ten million dollars". The pilot episode featured Morgan as a complex character because the show was in its exploratory stage, and that took courage, but now that they have 20 million viewers they fall back on timid, reliable themes.craignoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-64361720397963520402013-03-05T12:58:57.610-06:002013-03-05T12:58:57.610-06:00The graphic novel had a few gay characters. I alwa...The graphic novel had a few gay characters. I always shill for the books. Read them. Very, very much better than the TV show.chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-16798094589573342082013-03-05T12:38:01.892-06:002013-03-05T12:38:01.892-06:00I sorta like the show because it is brainless and ...I sorta like the show because it is brainless and horrible and is just a rambling insignificance to stare at before the work-week begins. It's racism is obvious, and almost as funny as watching TV commercial after TV commercial showing upper middle-class white and black people co-existing in a Wealthy and Wise Uberconsumer Pepsi Harmony Universe. I'm always amazed at even how few black zombies exist in a very heavily black-populated area of the US. Michonne's an awful character---I don't even think I'd know her name if I didn't read this entry. But I was suprised she mentioned she had an ex-BOYfriend. Thought they sorta hinted she had a thing for white gal Andrea. BTW, an amazing lack of gay characters on the show; not sure about the comic...Lee Violahttp://www.facebook.com/lee.viola.94noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-37928880342737345442013-03-05T11:01:30.090-06:002013-03-05T11:01:30.090-06:00Too true. The dilemma then for me becomes finding ...Too true. The dilemma then for me becomes finding a way to hold such artists accountable for those choices without assuming the role of "negro ambassador" and explaining the how and why of their errors.DrunkenShrimpnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-66816579132833914732013-03-04T20:47:01.562-06:002013-03-04T20:47:01.562-06:00Do I really want to? I'm sure it is pretty hor...Do I really want to? I'm sure it is pretty horrible, all those middle-class liberal white folks being color-blind. Can they at least admit that the show is generally terrible? Because that is at least a fair defense: "No, they aren't racist, they're just the worst writers on TV for EVERY character." I'd totally accept that as a defense.Improbable Joehttp://twitter.com/ImprobableJoenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-33730323799886172072013-03-04T20:28:04.946-06:002013-03-04T20:28:04.946-06:00see the response over at the Daily Kos. Typical de...see the response over at the Daily Kos. Typical deflecting and denying of some pretty obvious elements of TWD tv show.chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-81393676982758814322013-03-04T20:27:17.019-06:002013-03-04T20:27:17.019-06:00the ignorant beauty of conservative postracial col...the ignorant beauty of conservative postracial colorblindness. my take has always been that writers make choices. they should be held accountable regardless of the motivations or explanations. you may very well be right.chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-47883428423073232562013-03-04T19:05:56.055-06:002013-03-04T19:05:56.055-06:00Crybabys..get over itCrybabys..get over itdark clark the marknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-26678383279328459452013-03-04T18:59:38.535-06:002013-03-04T18:59:38.535-06:00Is it possible that, perhaps subconsciously, the w...Is it possible that, perhaps subconsciously, the writers<br />can’t help but compose the Morgans and Michonnes on TWD as they would any white<br />character exactly because they are, for a variety of reasons, unable or<br />unwilling to consider how or even why a character’s race would have dramatic<br />implications for the other characters as well as the viewers? All this to say,<br />is it possible they don’t consciously do such a bad job of fully realizing<br />characters of color precisely because their worlds are so racially uniform they<br />just don’t have the tools?DrunkenShrimpnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-50373423180009712762013-03-04T15:19:14.181-06:002013-03-04T15:19:14.181-06:00While still problematic, I didn't find this ep...While still problematic, I didn't find this episode as terrible or troubling as most of the season. If we were watching this episode play out in Season 1, there'd probably be little/nothing to complain about. There certainly wouldn't be as much of a feeling of Michonne as a servant, or insanity being the province of black men. <br /><br />The problem is that you can't help but see this episode in the context of the show as a whole. Having one episode where Michonne doesn't act like a sullen, psychotic mental defective doesn't make up for a whole season of her grumbling about how she wants her daddy's records and glaring menacingly at everyone. And the fact that she only has a personality so that she can suck up so they don't put her out is stupid considering that at this point the prison is the least safe place in Georgia. And the "only one black man at a time" rule is so ridiculously obvious that I'm amazed that they haven't done some reshoots/reediting to at least soften it a little.Improbable Joehttp://twitter.com/ImprobableJoenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-72282696742818420842013-03-04T14:59:34.873-06:002013-03-04T14:59:34.873-06:00There is a great website called this cage is worms...There is a great website called this cage is worms. Check it out, they do some great analysis of videogame aesthetics.chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-68967199436491573192013-03-04T13:03:43.770-06:002013-03-04T13:03:43.770-06:00FIrst time finding this site looking for Walking D...FIrst time finding this site looking for Walking Dead reviews. Glad this was my first time. I love when people try to skew everything to make it sound racist... it just shows how many morons are on the internet (yes, I'm talking about the author)Madness Unstoppablenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-73531753704798246512013-03-04T11:58:16.999-06:002013-03-04T11:58:16.999-06:00Would love if you did a critique on the video game...Would love if you did a critique on the video game industry and it's depictions of people of color and obsession with white bald space marines. Not many credible voices like yours have taken up this topic.Sunkissednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-27615516452469490442013-03-04T10:49:38.027-06:002013-03-04T10:49:38.027-06:00That is a funny joke. Please let me help you Mr. R...That is a funny joke. Please let me help you Mr. Rick and good master Carl! Pretty please!!!chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-27078525301030680282013-03-04T09:34:25.067-06:002013-03-04T09:34:25.067-06:00In all repeat airing of this episode, they should ...In all repeat airing of this episode, they should put up a Michonne help counter at the top left corner. It would ring up once every time Michonne says "help" in this episode. Similar to the Allen Iverson "practice" counter in his infamous practice press conference. I bet people are going to be talking about how much "progress" her character made this episode as well. What a joke man, a joke.Wavensteinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-19760071516554211332013-03-04T01:42:46.923-06:002013-03-04T01:42:46.923-06:00I thought I gave away too much. Thanks though. Do ...I thought I gave away too much. Thanks though. Do watch the episode and share your thoughts.chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-7938728924525376102013-03-04T01:42:24.388-06:002013-03-04T01:42:24.388-06:00Rants? Never. Focused. Precise. Skilled criticism....Rants? Never. Focused. Precise. Skilled criticism.chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-90970841097273263512013-03-04T01:06:27.925-06:002013-03-04T01:06:27.925-06:00And Zombies bore me, frankly.
Of all the Supernat...And Zombies bore me, frankly.<br /><br />Of all the Supernatural creatures I have run across, I view zombies as less threatening than a rabies infected wolverine or dog.Cain S. LaTranshttp://twitter.com/snkscoyotenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-61100645600860041522013-03-04T01:01:14.420-06:002013-03-04T01:01:14.420-06:00What are Anglos NOT afraid of?What are Anglos NOT afraid of?Cain S. LaTranshttp://twitter.com/snkscoyotenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-24845652985595044642013-03-04T01:00:07.441-06:002013-03-04T01:00:07.441-06:00I have not seen this series, though I have been fo...I have not seen this series, though I have been following Chauncey's rants...<br /><br />Frankly, the first folk I'd prefer to hang out with in case of Zombie attack are folks who understand Wendigos. Second folk are Black folk, because they've dealt with mindless folk all their lives.<br /><br />Anglos freak out at kids with a bag of skittles and tea...<br /><br />My two cents....Cain S. LaTranshttp://twitter.com/snkscoyotenoreply@blogger.com