tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post5486135740574953222..comments2024-03-22T20:34:13.792-05:00Comments on Indomitable | The online home of Chauncey DeVega: The Pleasure of Conflicting Views From the Daily Kos: Charlie Rangel was Wrong to Call the Tea Party a Bunch of "White Crackers"Lady Zora, Chauncey DeVega, and Gordon Gartrellehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09138154899923808806noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-87792309618097408512013-08-07T16:48:41.670-05:002013-08-07T16:48:41.670-05:00Ian is wrong. Cracker is different and is not a ra...Ian is wrong. Cracker is different and is not a racial slur - it just identifies people with a set of generally racists beliefs. There is a racial component to it in that to be a cracker you must be white, but It does not, and has not ever applied to all Caucasians. Pick a slur, any slur, and it's a slur because it's indiscriminate. It demeans based upon physical characteristics. It "slurs" all people of one ethnic group into a single, negative thing. <br /><br /><br />Non-crackers like Ian find the term offensive because he finds racism offensive, but know this, the term cracker is not really offensive to true crackers. I'm a white guy with a cracker for a father. If you call him a cracker, he laughs. He is not offended and it's been my experience that crackers don't find the term offensive either. They may play offended for political reasons, but they don't really give a shit. The cracker is the guy that holds the whip. The guy with the power. How is that offensive to a cracker?<br /><br /><br />The tea party people that will be offended are the ones that have no fucking clue how awesome it is to be white in America. The ones who claim, "I'm not racist, but ... " The ones who think they aren't racist because they like this black singer or that black comedian. The ones who see the history of America as a continuous line of white men doing great things. That's a lot of them and they need to know that the policies they advocate for have racist outcomes and they need to decide if they are comfortable with that - but that's hard work and calls for introspection, and it's so much easier just getting pissed off at Charlie Rangel.DanFnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-60160064122349318322013-08-07T13:47:48.603-05:002013-08-07T13:47:48.603-05:00I think you are right in terms of thinking systema...I think you are right in terms of thinking systematically and connecting the dots. If you are "guilty" of just doing the talking point version of really understanding these concepts (I am unsure if that is what you are implying) then dig deeper one book or concept at a time.chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-30946932012434573752013-08-07T11:32:02.147-05:002013-08-07T11:32:02.147-05:00"White liberals will often just derail and hi..."White liberals will often just derail and hijack the conversation by <br />using thinly understood language gleamed from the introduction to books <br />on white privilege or materials they found online."<br /><br /><br />One can't really respond to this because one can then be accused of doing exactly what this is saying.<br /><br /><br /><br />However, there's a legislative and cultural war on everybody who isn't a white male right now. Divide and conquer isn't a good strategy when you have the VRA destroyed and women are rapidly losing reproductive control of their bodies to the state. I don't want to fight with black men, I want the patriarchy overthrown so we all have representation and control of our own lives. <br /><br /><br /><br />I don't know how to get back what we've lost or how to move forward, but these problems all have the same root cause.grumpy rumblingsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-8386742343730196522013-08-07T11:12:51.078-05:002013-08-07T11:12:51.078-05:00Well played. Well played. Learning is eternalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-82751699806231170252013-08-07T02:23:43.541-05:002013-08-07T02:23:43.541-05:00Well I would suggest we need the opposite. Good fo...Well I would suggest we need the opposite. Good folks who care about the Common Good who work in the shadows and do not talk about race...ever.<br /><br /><br />3d chess not Spades or Craps brother.chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-77663774461041660362013-08-07T02:20:20.812-05:002013-08-07T02:20:20.812-05:00White conservatives/libs (w/a lisp) are synonymous...White conservatives/libs (w/a lisp) are synonymous w/donkeys & elephants. One is overtly racist where the other wants to massage oppression into your back & shoulders while telling you relax, you deserve it. I'd like more of US to speak in harsher tones than Rangel b/c lets face it who uses "cracKKKer?" That shit so 60's/70's. Whomever has any kind of platform I would like them to talk "honestly" to them/wf for the world to hear it. I know the world knows. I know the world has heard it before. De Vega, I know you of all people will get this: Imagine the language used in blaxploitation to describe them devils, them peckerwoods being used in today's climate. In film, on radio, all forms of media especially w/i the political spectrum. That's what I loved about those films. We need that (& more) now, that attitude, that aggression, right now!Learning is Eternalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-14498226164718635562013-08-07T01:06:59.688-05:002013-08-07T01:06:59.688-05:00That is a great cartoon. Thanks for sharing.That is a great cartoon. Thanks for sharing.chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-79035601682594266842013-08-06T21:13:19.906-05:002013-08-06T21:13:19.906-05:00Rangel isn't running for president so he'l...Rangel isn't running for president so he'll be okay. Old dude at Kos is worried about the wrong thing. Who cares about tea billy feelings. I bet if he had to talk to one he'd have a change of heart. <br /><br />If you want to see what the not so nice white liberals have to say, there's Driftglass. He's got the right idea.<br /><br />http://driftglass.blogspot.com/2010/09/now-bush-belly-sneetches.html<br />http://driftglass.blogspot.com/2011/07/as-his-batshit-chickens-come-home-to.html<br />http://driftglass.blogspot.com/2009/03/our-loser-media.html<br />http://driftglass.blogspot.com/2008/09/choler-of-money.htmlVic78noreply@blogger.com