tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post5474371758705220693..comments2024-03-22T20:34:13.792-05:00Comments on Indomitable | The online home of Chauncey DeVega: A White Man Talking to All of Us: Post Adam Lanza and Sandy Hook, America Needs to Talk About the Dysfunctions of White MasculinityLady Zora, Chauncey DeVega, and Gordon Gartrellehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09138154899923808806noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-20056800241634217302012-12-20T01:31:32.141-06:002012-12-20T01:31:32.141-06:00Can we objectively discuss white male pathologies ...Can we objectively discuss white male pathologies without discussing "abandonment/repressed racial self-hatred" manifested in the maltreatment of black women and its impact on the collective psyche of the race as well as the socioeconomic and cultural implications. The black male, by elevation of the white female above himself and his own has done more to empower and legitimize the sickness of white superiority than Jim Crow. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-18112899213011585952012-12-18T21:01:17.514-06:002012-12-18T21:01:17.514-06:00Thank you CD for the platform on your blog, and th...Thank you CD for the platform on your blog, and thanks for the compliments from the commenters. <br /><br />To your point, CD, if white folks finally admit that they have a problem with the way they socialize their children, it will tear down the false and unearned internalized assumptions of superiority at the heart of Whiteness.<br /><br />To chocdave's point, the dissonance between the masculine ideal and the men who commit these acts is definitely there, and something I should have commented on.Werner Herzog's Bearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01918845193415571702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-77186114639988255492012-12-17T21:42:08.253-06:002012-12-17T21:42:08.253-06:00@chocdave. spot on their too. that is what i don&#...@chocdave. spot on their too. that is what i don't get--these white men are killing other white people, but so few seem to want to talk about it. is there something paradoxical here about self-preservation where feeding kids to Moloch is somehow preserving the symbolic power of Whiteness?<br /><br />this my man mr. bear's essay. do check out his site.chaunceydevegahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09652406326490873337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-91061910530160930312012-12-17T20:23:30.226-06:002012-12-17T20:23:30.226-06:00Very good, thoughtful piece you wrote here.Very good, thoughtful piece you wrote here.chocdavenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-11939456301185953002012-12-17T20:22:11.009-06:002012-12-17T20:22:11.009-06:00Another thing to note is that the white shooters a...Another thing to note is that the white shooters are almost always young men clearly not going to live up to the stereotype...geeky, and without exception they have been on medication to help them cope with life. I wonder, do they decide to end it all but first want to have a few minutes of feeling like Stallone? And their victims are almost totally white as well, and usually as young or younger. Yes, we need to have this discussion. Gotta start somewhere. chocdavenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-56571145693519039382012-12-17T20:12:00.524-06:002012-12-17T20:12:00.524-06:00and i did raise a young man who is not violent, ho...and i did raise a young man who is not violent, homophobic, racist or sexist. i really don't know how much of that is attributable to my influence or just that he is a genuinely gentle soul. anyway, i can't take credit, i can just thank the genetic roulette that he turned out not an asshole.jenicillinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-32867614345030662412012-12-17T20:03:50.952-06:002012-12-17T20:03:50.952-06:00will do. i must say, i am absurdly pleased that th...will do. i must say, i am absurdly pleased that the white male violence conversation has spread internet-wise so thouroughly. hee! Look! It's a Real Thing! progress, i guess?jenicillinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-67162708129475634322012-12-17T19:28:20.472-06:002012-12-17T19:28:20.472-06:00@jen. check out the documentary I posed on killing...@jen. check out the documentary I posed on killing. Grossman talks about these dynamics there and in his own books. Scary stuff.chaunceydevegahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09652406326490873337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-9006325711335087452012-12-17T16:53:44.738-06:002012-12-17T16:53:44.738-06:00all of the above. I can't even watch mainstrea...all of the above. I can't even watch mainstream entertainment media anymore without constantly picking it apart re: sexist/racist/homophobic etc. tropes. It is such a huge, overarching problem, but these ideas are so prevalent and deeply embedded in everything we consume that it's disheartening. HOW exactly is one to raise young men not conditioned to violence and entitlement? Aren't we going to have to make massive social changes, eliminate economic and social injustice? Do we legislate against depictions of violence being manlyish? The mental chaos that is inherent in modern life can be overwhelming. Recently I saw a PBS thing about technology and what it may be doing to us. They interveiwed a drone pilot, asked him if he thought he had ever maybe hit innocent civilians. As he replied strongly to the negative, he was vigorously nodding his head. Cognitive dissonance much?jenicillinnoreply@blogger.com