tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post4634304272464105448..comments2024-03-22T20:34:13.792-05:00Comments on Indomitable | The online home of Chauncey DeVega: Zora Says: Is Obama the End of Civil Rights Era Politics? I Hope So ...Lady Zora, Chauncey DeVega, and Gordon Gartrellehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09138154899923808806noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-27233255431282974122008-08-18T19:19:00.000-05:002008-08-18T19:19:00.000-05:00I have wondered about Obama many times myself, and...I have wondered about Obama many times myself, and will hold him accountable for his actions to the people of the U.S. and our international allies regardless of color/ethnicity/sex, etc. I have questioned his allegiance to issues most concerning black people, but it dawned on me that he is running for the Presidency of the U.S., not Black America. However, I don't want the brotha to forget about the issues of all disadvantaged peoples! <BR/><BR/>Older leaders need to embrace Obama because we need CHANGE. But we have much longer to go and black politics will never end even with a black president--that's just like saying racism is no longer existent because of the 13, 14, and 15th Amendments to the constitution. Bai's article is a far stretch from reality.SHERMIKA DUNNERhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10401288067600424628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-10661662703417296652008-08-18T19:18:00.000-05:002008-08-18T19:18:00.000-05:00I have wondered about Obama many times myself, and...I have wondered about Obama many times myself, and will hold him accountable for his actions to the people of the U.S. and our international allies regardless of color/ethnicity/sex, etc. I have questioned his allegiance to issues most concerning black people, but it dawned on me that he is running for the Presidency of the U.S., not Black America. However, I don't want the brotha to forget about the issues of all disadvantaged peoples! <BR/><BR/>Older leaders need to embrace Obama because we need CHANGE. But we have much longer to go and black politics will never end even with a black president--that's just like saying racism is no longer existent because of the 13, 14, and 15th Amendments to the constitution. Bai's article is a far stretch from reality.SHERMIKA DUNNERhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10401288067600424628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-76503332892935914802008-08-14T08:26:00.000-05:002008-08-14T08:26:00.000-05:00hi Kit,I do believe that we have to blame ourselve...hi Kit,<BR/><BR/>I do believe that we have to blame ourselves for a lot of the marginalization of black women in black politics. It goes back to some of the sentiments held in black churches: that women should not be in the pulpit, that women need to support their male leaders ... When are we going to start calling our brothers and leaders on the sexist remarks that come out of their mouths. Putting his relationship with Wright aside, what would you say about Obama in this area?<BR/><BR/>I see the election of Obama neither as an advancement to black politics nor as the death of black politics. Things will probably continue much as they would if a white, Democratic were to be elected.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-53563965937719968462008-08-12T18:40:00.000-05:002008-08-12T18:40:00.000-05:00LOL, and hope springs eternal.LOL, and <BR/><BR/>hope springs eternal.Kit (Keep It Trill)https://www.blogger.com/profile/03027769872237001801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-11665479545587553582008-08-12T14:41:00.000-05:002008-08-12T14:41:00.000-05:00And I thought I was cynical ;)You don't think that...And I thought I was cynical ;)<BR/><BR/>You don't think that even with an Obama victory--if that happens--there will always be a space for blacks, even if as symbolic outsiders to push forth change...especially given that we are "anti-citizens" of a sort?<BR/><BR/>chauncey devegaLady Zora, Chauncey DeVega, and Gordon Gartrellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09138154899923808806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-20001864363731005192008-08-11T22:44:00.000-05:002008-08-11T22:44:00.000-05:00You asked, where are the voices of black women in ...You asked, <I>where are the voices of black women in all of this?</I><BR/><BR/>The serious ones aren't being invited as guests on news shows. I'd love to see Professor Angela Davis on one.<BR/><BR/>Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney became the Presidential nominee for the Green Party in July. There wasn't a peep about her <I>or</I> them in the mainstream media and barely a word in the alternative news media. <BR/><BR/>They did a great job of turning her into a traitor and a clown the minute she questioned what really happened on 9/11 and shortly afterwards poured tons of money in her opponent's ad campaign so she'd lose her seat. She got it back though, and submitted articles of impeachment against Bush & Co. in 2006. <BR/><BR/>Now there's a black women on top of the game and she's been trivialized - just like every black person who puts real issues on the plate that Hoover's FBI wanted to quash.<BR/><BR/>Obama groomed himself to becoming the kind of black politician that the powers in charge could accept. He has aided in the destruction of black politics, new or old, when he denounced every word that every spilled out of Rev. Wright's mouth. Wright was offensive as hell when said GD America, but he wasn't about the history of racism or how it currently <I>"grinds us down."</I><BR/><BR/>Black politics? At best: on the back shelf for the next generation. At worst: game over.Kit (Keep It Trill)https://www.blogger.com/profile/03027769872237001801noreply@blogger.com