tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post46213312777002890..comments2024-03-22T20:34:13.792-05:00Comments on Indomitable | The online home of Chauncey DeVega: This is Who They Really Are: NPR Asks Romney's Supporters About His Barack "The Welfare King" Obama LiesLady Zora, Chauncey DeVega, and Gordon Gartrellehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09138154899923808806noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-301761066724848432012-08-24T22:45:09.675-05:002012-08-24T22:45:09.675-05:00@mb. you saw Romney go birther today. they are des...@mb. you saw Romney go birther today. they are desperate. and Romney is going to win. bet money on it.<br /><br />Dang, CDV, that’s a bit of a reach this early in the campaign. Romney is the candidate of the Republican establishment. His only chance is a 150 percent energized Republican base and maybe 51-52 percent of the independents. I assume someone told him that he has to go hard in Pitchfork Ben Tillman-mode to energize his base. It worked for Ronald Raygun who launched his campaign from the white supremacist stronghold of Philadelphia, Ms. Obama’s lead in the RCP average is shrinking, so you may be correct.<br /> http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.htmlmakheru bradleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-91516609564794461552012-08-24T20:49:18.967-05:002012-08-24T20:49:18.967-05:00@ChaunceyD,
I’d love to hear some of Rush Limbau...@ChaunceyD, <br /><br />I’d love to hear some of Rush Limbaugh’s quackery laden subjects that he’s been feeding his programmed flock. I’m certain it’ll be perfect, even if merely for an abundance of personal amusement.<br /><br />Black Sagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03353802835713213965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-2159096482820657242012-08-24T12:22:12.758-05:002012-08-24T12:22:12.758-05:00@Black sage. I want to do an open thread/series of...@Black sage. I want to do an open thread/series of posts here on WARN where we actually listen to rush limbaugh, mark levin, or some of the other eliminationist bloviators for a week and then write about it. I have been doing this for some time--or at least trying to--and it is chilling, truly an alternate reality. I cannot imagine the impact repeated listening has on the listener's psyches.<br /><br />@mb. you saw Romney go birther today. they are desperate. and Romney is going to win. bet money on it.<br /><br />@ba. thanks. will check it out.<br /><br />@im. we have the new black panther party!<br /><br />@ew. if you want a laugh look up the maps that show meth and drug use, teen pregnancy rates, crime, unemployment, and yes porn use and subscriptions to xxx websites. where are they? red state america. riddle you that one.<br /><br />chaunceydevegahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09652406326490873337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-12322336855505854262012-08-24T11:33:35.853-05:002012-08-24T11:33:35.853-05:00"Jenna Jameson recently endorsed Romney."..."Jenna Jameson recently endorsed Romney."<br />What an idiot Romney wants to put Jenna's naked ass out of business!<br /><br />The millions more whites on welfare are deserving even though they failed to succeed in the 350 of white supremacy. Blacks and Hispanic who have been subjected centuries of discrimination and finally awarded full citizenship rights less that 50 years ago are lazy, immoral, criminal & hypersexual. The GOP and their poor white sycophants do not see people of color as individuals, just as a collection of pathologies.Esho Womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00242244431118677809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-70014821206806116902012-08-24T10:18:16.354-05:002012-08-24T10:18:16.354-05:00Hillary Clinton called it twenty years ago....vast...Hillary Clinton called it twenty years ago....vast right wing conspiracy, but your democratic massahs, (unlike the Republican messiahs) don't allow yall to organize into a radical front like the Tea Party. And now instead of being pissed at yo massahs you're pissed at the right wing for being effective and being organized. <br /><br />And I bet yall didn't have a problem when NPR basically promoted the myth that Occupy Wall Street was a bunch of dirty trust fund hippies? <br />Invisible Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615524438949539565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-35650859665608744332012-08-24T08:21:46.912-05:002012-08-24T08:21:46.912-05:00CDv have you read about the Koch brothers and Ryan...CDv have you read about the Koch brothers and Ryan?<br />http://stonezone.comBruto Altonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-36186899256283095182012-08-24T07:29:25.303-05:002012-08-24T07:29:25.303-05:00Jenna Jameson recently endorsed Romney.
This mean...Jenna Jameson recently endorsed Romney.<br /><br />This means Romney finally has a supporter who changes positions more than he does.<br /><br />- Buddy H.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-65082548858591513132012-08-23T21:12:20.024-05:002012-08-23T21:12:20.024-05:00All of this race-baiting and Romney is only ahead ...All of this race-baiting and Romney is only ahead with whites 53 percent to 40 percent. Da boy needs to step up his Pitchfork Ben Tillman game if he wants a chance.<br /><br />Same poll (NBC/WSJ) shows Obama pitching a shutout amongst Afrikan Americans 94-0. Condoleezza had better quit hitting golf balls into Rae’s Creek and get her tight booty out on the campaign trail. <br /><br />Seriously, do I dare extrapolate from these numbers that a full 6 percent of us have broken the monopoly which the corrupt two-party system has had on our minds? Hallelujah! Praise The Lord!makheru bradleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-80407131834929976052012-08-23T15:34:25.037-05:002012-08-23T15:34:25.037-05:00Romney and Ryan are both very conscious of the fac...Romney and Ryan are both very conscious of the fact that the Republican/Tea Party base is very susceptible to adhering to and believing in cheap political theatrics. The vast majority of these people are so programmed that they’ll believe pretty much anything Master Mitt and Paul broadcast. In short, it’s a loss cause attempting to alert the Republican/Tea Party factotums that they’re being lead astray. Blind allegiance and ask no questions type attitude amongst poor and working class Whites are the most important elements at work here. Over the past few decades, the Republicans and the Democrats to a lesser extent have effectively drummed a constant scare beat, targeting Whites in various ways through the media (Internet, newspaper and advertisement) that those OTHER people are gaining politically, socially and economically. And at a time to be determined in the future, you will be a slave of some sort for them (minorities).<br /><br />Black Sagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03353802835713213965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-70462212696009761862012-08-23T14:58:58.324-05:002012-08-23T14:58:58.324-05:001. There is no equivalent on the Left or even broa...<i>1. There is no equivalent on the Left or even broad middle to the right wing echo chamber</i><br /><br />Quite right. That right-wing echo chamber resounds with hot air and energetic rhetoric.<br /><br />Meanwhile on the Obama-wing tangible deeds front, we got ABC/Disney calling the fourth year of the Greatest Depression and Long Emergency <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/analysts-project-1-1t-federal-deficit-140421433.html" rel="nofollow">another recession</a> - while running <a href="http://subrealism.blogspot.com/2012/08/speaking-of-need-for-effective.html" rel="nofollow">Minority Report grade facial recognition and data mining</a> fully implemented on its rides at Disneyworld accompanied by <a href="http://subrealism.blogspot.com/2012/08/trouble-in-happiest-place-on-earth.html" rel="nofollow">paramilitary ass-kicking</a> in Anaheim.<br /><br />Who was it again that coordinated the nationwide police crackdown on the Occupy movement last year?<br /><br /><i>There is no equivalent to Fox News. Period. They are a ruthlessly efficient machine for the circulation of Right-wing, Tea Party GOP talking points. As you know, that has been well-documented.</i><br /><br />You mean that Rupert Murdoch company that's presently getting its ass kicked in the UK for illegally wiretapping some Top people's phones?CNuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14152640304402402884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-89852597410423028192012-08-23T14:19:02.622-05:002012-08-23T14:19:02.622-05:00@Cnu. You know I believe that the masses are asses...@Cnu. You know I believe that the masses are asses and the global power elite are playing a different game than the lumpen. But, for all of my sympathy and agreement with your claims, I think there are some issues about matters of degree and what we know empirically about political behavior, psychology and ideology from recent research.<br /><br />1. There is no equivalent on the Left or even broad middle to the right wing echo chamber. To their credit, from the top down, neoliberal/neocon think tanks created a network of agents and info centers online and in "the real world" during the 1970s. They have legitimated their ideology and rhetoric, invented new language, and moved the public to the Right. <br /><br />There has been some great empirical research using social network analysis which looks at how closely different groups (or individuals) are tied together. In essence, the Right-wing media are much denser, only reference each other, closer, and immerse their public in a complete information and world system. This is a propaganda machine and a cult.<br /><br />2. There is no equivalent to Fox News. Period. They are a ruthlessly efficient machine for the circulation of Right-wing, Tea Party GOP talking points. As you know, that has been well-documented.<br /><br />3. There is some good stuff out there from folks who research political psyche. Conservatives in this country over the last decade or so, perhaps even going back farther, are demonstrating strongly authoritarian leanings politically. This isn't just old Adorno F scale stuff, there are additional measures which capture traditional measures of deference to authority, with newer measures on racial affect, out group hostility, and the like.<br /><br />There is a segment of democratic leaning voters who also share some of these attributes--to my memory those who most enthusiastically supported Hillary as opposed to Obama--but their authoritarianism does not color the broad spectrum of political behavior and values in the same way that it does for conservative and Tea Party GOP voters. <br /><br />4. Once we factor in the different brain structures of conservatives and liberals where the former are more fear motivated, binary simple thinkers, and less tolerant of ambiguity there are some significant differences. <br /><br />Some may laugh at this observation--I doubt you will--but whole segments of the U.S. public, conservatives in particular, are being given the stimuli, rationale, and conditioning to engage in mass political violence, if not widespread eliminationism.chaunceydevegahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09652406326490873337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-1333994070932686902012-08-23T13:43:37.682-05:002012-08-23T13:43:37.682-05:00Made a couple adjustments to that next to last par...Made a couple adjustments to that next to last paragraph magne. Seems like it still reads cogently and correctly to me. <br /><br /><i>At present, democrats live in a post-truth universe: a dangerous and Santorum-frothy mix of gay marriage, abortion rights, secular humanism, NPR, liberal democracy, privacy rights, and GE-owned NBC/MSNBC to form the boundaries of their cognition and perception. The elites on the Top know that this world is an artifice and a construction based on a lie; the foot soldiers and the base really and truly believe that the lies which are spun by their social betters and "influentials" are in fact true. All Americans suffer because this particularly virulent strain of abnormal politics makes consensus on matters and challenges of shared concern almost impossible to attain.</i>CNuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14152640304402402884noreply@blogger.com