tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post3930107173006245964..comments2024-03-22T20:34:13.792-05:00Comments on Indomitable | The online home of Chauncey DeVega: Zora on Film: "Heading South" – White Women as Consumers of Black FleshLady Zora, Chauncey DeVega, and Gordon Gartrellehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09138154899923808806noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-80605864781696189162007-12-30T13:36:00.000-06:002007-12-30T13:36:00.000-06:00Elle,Forgive me. I didn't mean to offend you at al...Elle,<BR/><BR/>Forgive me. I didn't mean to offend you at all. I absolutely do not think that all mixed folks want to be white (my post on "light-skinned negroes who know the value of being black" supports this). <BR/><BR/>What I was referring to is the disturbing trend of people who want to create a "mixed-race" identity, of people who want to claim every part of their identity except for that which extends from Africa. It both denies a social reality in America and undermines a history/practice among black Americans that has always been inclusive of "mixtures." The mixed-race identity movement includes a lot of white female voices who have no connection or affinity to African-Americans other that through the partner they coupled with. They have narrow visions of what it means to be black, of the black experience generally, and they often pass this on to their children. With little exposure to the full diversity of experience and culture among black folks, the children of these women react to stereotypes: "Black people are like X; If I am not like X, then I can't be black; I know that I can't be white in this country, so let's come up with an alternative ..." <BR/><BR/>The women I write about in "Heading South," women who see black men primarily as exotics, are the very women who are most likely to raise children who willingly call themselves zebras. There are plenty of other white women (and men) who are both thoughtful and pragmatic in raising their black children -- examples abound...<BR/><BR/>Again, no disrespect intended.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-10203589117565569362007-12-30T11:45:00.000-06:002007-12-30T11:45:00.000-06:00I agree with this post, but I take offense to your...I agree with this post, but I take offense to your claim that us racially mixed blacks want to be white. My dad let me know that,even though I'm half white,society will see me as black,and I 'keeps it real' and never tried to be a oreo. Although I did know a few half-black kids who had mostly white friends and looked pretty white,there were many more "mocha babies" that hanged with the black folks,considered themselves black, and these were the majority. The assimilated mulatto doesn't exist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-83610212939744541642007-12-06T11:16:00.000-06:002007-12-06T11:16:00.000-06:00Dallas,You're absolutely right -- the privelege of...Dallas,<BR/><BR/>You're absolutely right -- the privelege of white supremacy is that you don't have to be accountable to anyone (except to maybe a more powerful white person).<BR/><BR/>Your hope for retribution, however, will only serve to disempower us further by filling our ranks with black folks who willingly refer to themselves as "mocha babies" or "zebras" and spend their days trying to convince white people that they are "not really black."Zorahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11955073272335213471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-58216280186526483252007-12-05T14:40:00.000-06:002007-12-05T14:40:00.000-06:00Damn Z,Let these white hos get some of this cock.N...Damn Z,<BR/>Let these white hos get some of this cock.<BR/><BR/>Nahh, but seriously, when has privilege or entitlement ever had to look itself squarely in the face and admit that it was just a ho, a thief, a coward?<BR/><BR/>White would do their damnedest to bring an extinct animal species back from the dead before they would fess u[ to the benefits of supremacy.<BR/><BR/>My only hopw is that some of these wrinkled bags end up with 'change of life' babies. Now that would really change their lives.Dallas Pennhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09999650468564846392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-9177101489484216262007-11-27T07:44:00.000-06:002007-11-27T07:44:00.000-06:00I have to say that I was offended by McMillan's St...I have to say that I was offended by McMillan's Stella, but not to the same degree and for different reasons. I was offended to see a story of an accomplished, beautiful black woman who saw her only option for a meaningful relationship in the eyes of a lazy, spoiled island boy. In McMillan's story, the male protagonist came from a privileged family -- he wasn't exploited. He probably could have secured a visa on his own and easily entered the professional class. What bothered me was Stella's, and Terry's, desperation and self-delusion. With the options in the U.S. for black women being what they are, we too often settle for something that is too good to be true. Black women, too, are beginning to travel to the Carribbean to meet men. The key difference is that they are most often looking for husbands, for true love and not for a mandingo sex toy.Zorahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11955073272335213471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-19615461238025947102007-11-26T18:43:00.000-06:002007-11-26T18:43:00.000-06:00Preach it, Sister Zora.But were you equally offend...Preach it, Sister Zora.<BR/><BR/>But were you equally offended by Terry McMillan's ...Stella?gordon gartrellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07453017150507048961noreply@blogger.com