tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post314868077976720117..comments2024-03-22T20:34:13.792-05:00Comments on Indomitable | The online home of Chauncey DeVega: A New Scooby Doo Mystery: The Washington Post Asks "Why Aren't Blacks Embracing Occupy Wall Street?"Lady Zora, Chauncey DeVega, and Gordon Gartrellehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09138154899923808806noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-1235274095138022192011-12-01T02:23:03.738-06:002011-12-01T02:23:03.738-06:00There are blacks, latinos, asians, and working cla...There are blacks, latinos, asians, and working class/low income white folks participating in OWS. I haven't taken any surveys to find out their % of the movement as a whole. I don't really give a fuck tbh. A plurality of negroes in this wicked country think that a weekly contribution to their local Cadillac church will ensure them a spot in geechy heaven. I gives a fuck whether or not they show up for something? Hardly.Thunhttp://www.thetroyblog.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-59375111284902017142011-11-29T01:31:24.129-06:002011-11-29T01:31:24.129-06:00@Thrasher
The equation that puts us in the center...@Thrasher<br /><br /><i>The equation that puts us in the center is bullshit...Our essence is bigger than saving America for America</i><br /><br />Agreed. I used to say, years ago, "no more Black Jeremiads". Why in the world should we play collective mammy and race-redeemers to the very people who abuse us, and everyone else in their path.Oh Craphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08569760594341619659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-28158726966722585232011-11-28T14:18:26.036-06:002011-11-28T14:18:26.036-06:00Yes, this post is so completely on point.
I would...Yes, this post is so completely on point.<br /><br />I would also like to add that this movement is about 20 years too late.<br /><br />IMO: I think the American system is so broken that it needs to just be destroyed rather than "patched up". And no one person or group can fix it at this point.<br /><br />I support their efforts, if their delusion that they are really doing something by OWS really makes them feel better...*shrug* Good. Luck. With. That. I'll be over here.<br /><br />And I STILL don't think the students being pepper sprayed was anything. Shit, freedom riders and Civil rights movement protesters got shot at, mauled, they got their asses whooped, they had malatov cocktails hurled in their face, people spit on them, they called them every name in the book. <br /><br />A little pepper spay and some light beatings/jail ain't nothing compared to that, even though I feel nothing but sympathy for the people that went through that.<br /><br />I'm actually <i>very</i> glad most PoC decided to sit OWS out, if that is in fact the case. You can bet if they had participated in large numbers OWS would have had much more brutailty/violence. <br /><br />I don't need to see anymore of that shit directed at POC than I already have in my lifetime, especially directed at such a seemingly futile poorly coordinated effort.<br /><br />I agree with what Paul Mooney even though I wasn't around when those things went down: " I been black too long. I miss hippies and Jews. I miss brave white people. Jews went down south with us, and they died with us."<br /><br />I'm rambling but again this is a great post.Student of the Worldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03095900166736763285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-31207524752968526572011-11-28T08:33:00.112-06:002011-11-28T08:33:00.112-06:00One other note in the universal construct I find i...One other note in the universal construct I find if insane that Black folks must always be the nation's miracle worker..<br /><br />The equation that puts us in the center is bullshit...Our essence is bigger than saving America for AmericaPlane Ideas https://www.blogger.com/profile/13838821721942426785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-8897822677487580342011-11-27T22:50:03.100-06:002011-11-27T22:50:03.100-06:00I don't know what I can add to this, except th...I don't know what I can add to this, except that it's on point.Brotha Wolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11757828851843699053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-10597655588437988172011-11-27T20:44:37.797-06:002011-11-27T20:44:37.797-06:00A variation on #3: more people of color are alread...A variation on #3: more people of color are already in the system and face harsher punishments than white folks with clean records, even ignoring the more generic racial bias inherent in the "justice" system. <br /><br />Plus honestly, I feel like OWS disbands the minute that the line between "lower class" and "middle class" is more boldly drawn. The 99% dissolves the moment that the upper 49% stops feeling like they can easily drop into the bottom 50%.Improbable Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00388199130147075176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-37098604330413786972011-11-27T16:06:59.727-06:002011-11-27T16:06:59.727-06:00I agree and personally feel it's a combination...I agree and personally feel it's a combination of 1 and 3. You can throw a rock and find a person who justifies the recent incidents of violence and gross misuse of pepper spray. If we go to jail, that's it. There won't be an outpouring of support. We probably deserved it, had something else in our history that justifies it, were turning OWS into a "race thing" thereby rendering our opinions irrelevant etc. And, as I slowly climb the ladder from working poor to solidly middle class and have seen that on the "other side" high credit scores are about as important to financial movement as IQ scores, I feel quite a bit of schadenfreude that it's not just us getting hammered right now. Immature? Completely. But it is what it is.Henri B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00892218291117471971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-24029815105393560672011-11-27T10:56:35.178-06:002011-11-27T10:56:35.178-06:00Having been on the ground in Occupy movements in b...Having been on the ground in Occupy movements in both Detroit & DC I can opine that all of the above reasons have merit and validity..<br /><br />Of course whites have never acknowledge us as the principal leaders owners, architects of many things and most of the leadership present at these venues are whites..clearly whites have slower maturation levels in becoming leaders, and progressive authors of change they have no depth and they simply lack it..<br /><br />The black folks I meet at these venues are seasoned and aged in politicsl capitsl and like me not really interested in this overvew on why we are alleged by many MIA..<br /><br />We have always been in the vanguard in America from politics to love..Plane Ideas https://www.blogger.com/profile/13838821721942426785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-78196954784226667152011-11-26T20:23:48.930-06:002011-11-26T20:23:48.930-06:00chicago jack&jill backs your play.
that ups t...chicago jack&jill backs your play.<br /><br />that ups the ante to regional/national sold-out critterdom...,CNuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14152640304402402884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-12848926273303160822011-11-26T19:20:50.251-06:002011-11-26T19:20:50.251-06:00White Americans necessarily bought into a lie as t...<i>White Americans necessarily bought into a lie as they earned the wages of whiteness. Now, the emptiness of the bargain is exposed. White America simply does not have the political maturity, one born of experience and struggle, that is common to black and brown people in this country.</i><br /><br />Man, I love this part. You put it so elegantly, yet, so directly about the cloak of White Privilege. <br /><br />I read this over and over and smiled each time as I read it. <br /><br />as for why Black folk haven't signed up for OWS, you've nailed pretty much all of it. <br /><br />For me, until they become OCCUPY VOTING BOOTH..<br /><br />I don't wanna hear nothing from them.rikyrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10982657053583534299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-55488503989261017832011-11-26T18:05:42.187-06:002011-11-26T18:05:42.187-06:00How do you explain the lack of diversity in the OW...<i>How do you explain the lack of diversity in the OWS movement? Or are these concerns based on a false premise, i.e. that OWS is in fact "diverse," but the media and the pundit classes are looking in the wrong places, invested in marginalizing the movement?<br /><br />What hypotheses would you offer to explain the relative lack of participation by black people, other racial minorities, and the white poor, in OWS? How would you correct this dynamic?</i><br /><br />Does sold-out trick still just run 32 pieces of silver?CNuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14152640304402402884noreply@blogger.com