tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post2905812893148881555..comments2024-03-17T20:04:18.872-05:00Comments on Indomitable | The online home of Chauncey DeVega: The Real #Fearandrace: Where is NPR's Show About Why America Should be Afraid of White Men?Lady Zora, Chauncey DeVega, and Gordon Gartrellehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09138154899923808806noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-87154071487924051252015-04-13T02:55:29.203-05:002015-04-13T02:55:29.203-05:00How kind. Just trying to do right :)How kind. Just trying to do right :)chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-610011443294771632015-04-04T16:27:22.060-05:002015-04-04T16:27:22.060-05:00P.S. Love this blog!P.S. Love this blog!Audreynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-85574230372311900772015-04-04T16:27:11.272-05:002015-04-04T16:27:11.272-05:00I'd say it's more a question of horizontal...I'd say it's more a question of horizontal violence, black men preying on black women, white men preying on black, brown and white women.Audreynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-76457849479005741202015-04-04T16:25:58.823-05:002015-04-04T16:25:58.823-05:00Most women I know are very weary of men, especiall...Most women I know are very weary of men, especially when we see them on the streets at night. Men are a danger to women, I see them harassing women all the time. White women and black women I know DO NOT want to deal with men at all in certain situations, and we deeply resent the out of control male violence epidemic in America right now. My gang condemns white male out of control behavior all the time, it's time for white men to condemn white men--frat boys, football players, sports bars, men who go to strip clubs--white men!Audreynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-23231883376458081262015-04-04T00:34:50.778-05:002015-04-04T00:34:50.778-05:00So true.So true.Courtney H.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-22013306539878362372015-04-03T13:15:10.449-05:002015-04-03T13:15:10.449-05:00I don't have the "ideal" as judged b...I don't have the "ideal" as judged by who is the question, body either :)chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-74584330052307414412015-04-03T07:59:13.466-05:002015-04-03T07:59:13.466-05:00Pretty Freudian essay, Chauncey...a man after my o...Pretty Freudian essay, Chauncey...a man after my own heart!<br /><br /><br />I have an inferiority complex that I don't have the ideal black man's body while at the same time knowing that I don't get to play the victim. But it must be harder for a black man to live up to the ideal black man's body than a white man. It's not always even possible either...kokaneehttp://www.byebyedemocracy.org/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-47735320401437095242015-04-02T13:24:28.442-05:002015-04-02T13:24:28.442-05:00His book remains controversial, but his use of psy...His book remains controversial, but his use of psycho-analytic frameworks do work through the various types of white racism are very powerful. His chapter on "meta racism" was and remains very much ahead of its time. Accessible and very smart stuff.chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-61724664232386689292015-04-02T13:23:04.284-05:002015-04-02T13:23:04.284-05:00Just trying to be direct. Something about that sho...Just trying to be direct. Something about that show and the genre to which it belongs is very irksome and problematic.chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-72734226724676030322015-04-02T11:28:27.093-05:002015-04-02T11:28:27.093-05:00Can you share a little more about Kovel's book...Can you share a little more about Kovel's book? What can one expect?SWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-12596047746206039492015-04-02T08:18:03.756-05:002015-04-02T08:18:03.756-05:00Besides having a dearth of black voices in its pro...Besides having a dearth of black voices in its programming, NPR's harping on the subject of "black fearsomeness" is disingenuously self reinforcing. The "white" in white collar crime puts the lie to the charge that blacks are more fearsome than whites. A fair comparison would illustrate the criminality of predatory lending, corporate tax cheating, political patronage, xenophobia, Elmer Gantry-ism, chauvinism, war mongering, "drill baby drill," gun proliferation, red lining, global warming denying, etc.joe manningnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-44136268729672004672015-04-02T08:17:32.715-05:002015-04-02T08:17:32.715-05:00Wow Chauncey that was some spot on social commenta...Wow Chauncey that was some spot on social commentary. I realized long ago, Americas bread and butter is cognitive dissonance as it relates to white male pathology. It's far easier to point the finger at someone else than to examine ones self.INDYOO7noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-66100701086704921892015-04-01T17:26:29.331-05:002015-04-01T17:26:29.331-05:00There's an abundance of historical evidence an...There's an abundance of historical evidence and events that would more than justify an examination called "America's Fear of White Men." Violence is certainly not limited to the black community, and yet violence of the non-petty crime type, the school shootings, racial and religious terror acts are damn near exclusively white, enough so that it practically cries out for an examination of the question, why are white men prone to violence? <br /><br /><br />Such a show would be of tremendous value, not just to answer that question, but also to address the social narrative and mindset that black men are by nature super violent predators.Gable1111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-10574404184292956822015-04-01T14:18:07.890-05:002015-04-01T14:18:07.890-05:00It was like a highlight reel of some of his best w...It was like a highlight reel of some of his best work on white supremacy, white privilege, and white fragility. Not new for me but certainly new for many of the young students there.KissedByTheSunnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-16106630642058088112015-04-01T13:41:03.108-05:002015-04-01T13:41:03.108-05:00It's probably all that negro crime and crimina...It's probably all that negro crime and criminality and the thirty year celebration of the same in popular music, video, etc..., Behind every crimey black billionaire rapper is a Jew many times as wealthy. Dare not speak the truth of this pornagraphic media sensationalization that accounts for the global fascination and pathetic superficial imitation.cognitive pupillometrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-7706155632973978192015-04-01T11:54:13.066-05:002015-04-01T11:54:13.066-05:00Interesting analysis. You are likely familiar with...Interesting analysis. You are likely familiar with Lacan, also Dyer's great book on Whiteness. If not, seek them out. You will find them very useful. I was thinking of the classic book White Racism: A Psychohistory as I worked through some of my ideas here. A classic.chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-14778841148387861672015-04-01T11:52:49.369-05:002015-04-01T11:52:49.369-05:00What a visual. I think there is a painting or cart...What a visual. I think there is a painting or cartoon there about the truth as a wasp that our young people run away from like it is a monster!<br /><br /><br />What did Tim talk about?chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-35983028161215609072015-04-01T08:00:35.313-05:002015-04-01T08:00:35.313-05:00The fictions of monstrous black masculinity are sh...The fictions of monstrous black masculinity are shadow projections of a white people gripped for millennia by fear of sexuality. White men, in particular, see in black men their own disallowed masculinity and are compelled to kill it off lest the White Guy In The Sky start throwing thunderbolts down on the earth. European men historically have not been allowed to indulge the full range of their masculine proclivities because their God had set restrictions, while African mens' Gods did not set such restrictions.<br /><br /><br />Moreover, white people (some more unconsciously than others) think black masculinity is theirs to own, because the shadow projections they assign to black men are indeed their own — but whites cannot distinguish between their own shadow projections, for which they are responsible, and the discreteness of the person, or entire group of people, onto whom they are projecting. Whites end up thinking they own blacks because whites are incapable? unwilling? to identify and take responsibility for their shadow projections.<br /><br /><br />And since sexuality is, archetypally speaking, the basis of creativity, whites end up thinking they own the products of black creativity as well: black people are not creative in their own right, they are recepticles for white shadow projection, have therefore been impregnated with creativity by whites, who then think they own and deserve the (financial and other) rewards of black creativity.<br /><br /><br />All of this is unconscious of course and white people far and wide will howl in indignation at these kinds of ideas, but I have thought about this a very great deal and I don't see how it can be otherwise. White psychology, like the White Guy In The Sky it created, requires a sacrificial scapegoat — a slave, in other words, tasked with carrying the shadow-projected sins of everyone else and who will be sacrificed for the spiritual cleansing of all. Every black man who dies at the hands of white authority represents white victory over its own unacceptable, repressed masculinity — except it doesn't work that way, and so black men continue dying en masse so white men can continue their failed project of killing off their own rejected masculinity.<br /><br /><br />I could say a lot more but i'll stop blathering now. Thanks for reading and thanks for an excellent blog — there seems to be a dearth of excellent blogs anymore.Paulanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-56812974602953299562015-04-01T07:53:21.380-05:002015-04-01T07:53:21.380-05:00"Well, Payne's study found that when rese..."Well, Payne's study found that when research subjects were instructed to think the word "safe" whenever they saw a black face—undermining the stereotypical association between black people and danger—they were 10 percent less likely than those in a control group to misidentify a gun in the Weapons Identification Task."<br /><br />Well I'll be! A whole 10 percent you say! I feel safer already.<br /><br />On a serious note, I got to see Tim Wise speak at a Seventh Day Adventist school called Oakwood University. He was on point as usual. I hope some of the younger students absorbed what he presented because they spent most of their time running from a wasp that had flown into the lecture hall.KissedByTheSunnoreply@blogger.com