tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post2322822269320091552..comments2024-03-22T20:34:13.792-05:00Comments on Indomitable | The online home of Chauncey DeVega: White Male Victimologist Jonathan Chait and the Black Man Who Brought Down the KKKLady Zora, Chauncey DeVega, and Gordon Gartrellehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09138154899923808806noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-57525322743326336392015-02-18T05:09:22.964-06:002015-02-18T05:09:22.964-06:00I believe that you must protect free speech even f...I believe that you must protect free speech even for those with whom you passionately disagree precisely because it has consequences. But I see Fox News's effect on America and I confess I now feel conflicted. Chris Hedges has written some very interesting stuff on how "ethnic cleansing" was started by radio propaganda in Rwanda and Yugoslavia and how similar America has become to the early stages of each of those genocides, both of which he was personally present for as a journalist.<br /><br />If anyone wants to comment, my question is: is there a point are we just being suicidal as a society? A lot of what Fox does looks a lot like inciting to riot, but stops just short of the line where it ceases to be Constitutionally protected speech.Camilla Cracchiolo, RNnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-80551245832037598222015-02-04T13:31:21.563-06:002015-02-04T13:31:21.563-06:00And I've only recently begun to see that. I h...And I've only recently begun to see that. I hope to be open to criticism and also dish it out where deserved. At any rate thanks for the wakeup callDan Kasteraynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-48544541270546354612015-02-04T13:27:43.704-06:002015-02-04T13:27:43.704-06:00We all need to be good listeners. We also should n...We all need to be good listeners. We also should not be expected to be omniscient. Silence from fear of causing hurt can be just as problematic as unthinking inconsiderate speech. People of color are not that fragile. Women are pretty tough too.chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-55625578032678655382015-02-04T11:49:31.490-06:002015-02-04T11:49:31.490-06:00My free speech ends when it hurts someone else. I ...My free speech ends when it hurts someone else. I don't mean insulting a privileged libertarian troll. When it comes to poc for example or women's issues I've stuck my foot in my mouth too many times. The worst was when one time I accidentally triggered flashbacks for a rape survivor. Accident or nor that was all me and I still feel horrible for it.Dan Kasteraynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-57563008187351052612015-02-03T23:26:44.556-06:002015-02-03T23:26:44.556-06:00Fascinating, just fascinating! I loved the Love an...Fascinating, just fascinating! I loved the Love and Radio podcast about and with Larry Davis. One certainly can't argue against his results!<br /><br />I think I get it. The clansmen wanted to be able to say what they thought without all the, "No, you can't say that." Just like Jonathan Chait. But Larry Davis would say, "Let him talk and then let others talk and trust that reasonable arguments will lead to reasonable conclusions." It seems to me that Chait is getting thrashed, deservedly, in the media. Personally, I'd like to revoke his "liberal" card.kokaneehttp://www.byebyedemocracy.org/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-40398736711134834572015-02-03T13:27:22.334-06:002015-02-03T13:27:22.334-06:00Its saying I have as much right to hate as you do ...Its saying I have as much right to hate as you do to love. And that's wrong on the face of it. To be a responsible person one can't believe just anything. There are certain cognitive standards that the vast majority subscribes to. If one believes in white supremacy, the makers/takers ideology, a geocentric solar system, he is incapable of being a good neighbor, in that he is denying reality with a vengeance. Chait et. al. are selling a bill of goods nobody wants to buy. They're trying to replace PC with political incorrectness.joe manningnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-8691482979732921472015-02-03T10:38:30.333-06:002015-02-03T10:38:30.333-06:00I've read and heard much about Chait's col...I've read and heard much about Chait's column, pro and con. You cut to the quick: Complaints about "PC" are demands for the right to be rude without consequences.<br /><br />Well said.Frankhttp://www.pineviewfarm.net/weblognoreply@blogger.com