tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post1408608763928935027..comments2024-03-22T20:34:13.792-05:00Comments on Indomitable | The online home of Chauncey DeVega: A Conversation with Author Joe McKinney About All Things Zombie and Horror RelatedLady Zora, Chauncey DeVega, and Gordon Gartrellehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09138154899923808806noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-39477852349121141802015-05-13T03:20:04.384-05:002015-05-13T03:20:04.384-05:00What was that experience like?What was that experience like?chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-11381976662058852272015-05-09T18:14:09.056-05:002015-05-09T18:14:09.056-05:00That Romero flick forever ruined me for zombie mov...That Romero flick forever ruined me for zombie movies. When I was attending a community college in so. MD in the mid-1970s, the lounge area of the student center had a TV that played the blasted thing 24/7 for WEEKS on end. I've seen all of the flick once. If I'd seen it *only* once, I might not be so biased against zombie movies/series in general. I also can't get into "The Walking Dead" for the same reason. Good thing I have so many other interests!saber86noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-28086000569417621262015-05-09T11:08:07.450-05:002015-05-09T11:08:07.450-05:00There seem to be two branches to the "zombie&...There seem to be two branches to the "zombie" definition. <br /><br /><br /> First, there's the idea of something that won't die although it should by all definition be dead. "Zombie politics" comes to mind, i.e. the well-refuted myths and outright lies that are told to justify certain policies, again and again. "Trickle down" economic policies should be dead as a door nail (can door nails actually "die"?) given how they've utterly failed, in the forty or so years since Reagan made them popular among the right and the chattering classes. The Brownback "experiment" in KS is the latest example. Walker is doing a bang up job of it in WI, proving the failure.<br /><br />Then there is the idea or people being utterly in the throes of control not of their own. There are many literal examples of this. Recently I started taking the commuter train from the 'burbs downtown to a project I was working on. And its amazing to see the numbers of people head down, totally captivated by some electronic device. Even ten years ago this was not something you'd expect to see. <br /><br />Then there is the idea of people being zombies by virtue of their being utterly and unwittingly controlled by external media. Advertising does work, and political advertising works as well. Not only do people buy stuff they don't need, they vote time and again for policies that harm them, and then blame "government" for their woes. And yet, the inability to pay attention long enough to understand even basic concepts is a feature, not a bug of what's being done. And people have become totally conditioned to not think for themselves. To wit:<br /><br />http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/science/2014/07/03/idle/J2LpEcTdZzLykRCTnZ80fL/story.html<br /><br /><br /><br />The "life of the mind" has dissipated to the extent it has any popularity, and that's sad. I recall taking long road trips with the family, and us kids would always angle for "the window seat" to have a front row seat on watching the world go by. Today, kids could care less if a car had any windows at all, as the action is going on inside the car. Many cars come equipped with "entertainment," and even kids now have their own devices to entertain themselves. <br /><br /><br />What does it say that people would rather be tortured than spend a few moments on introspection? And what does that say about the ability for citizens to make practical decisions?Gable1111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-12857018974700261402015-05-09T10:35:34.851-05:002015-05-09T10:35:34.851-05:00Excellent discussion. McKinney certainly has a mas...Excellent discussion. McKinney certainly has a mastery of the zombie genre. That he's (still) a cop writing science fiction makes him a very interesting subject.Gable1111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-5110241513118855752015-05-08T20:33:26.632-05:002015-05-08T20:33:26.632-05:00You're welcome! We do share here at WARN.You're welcome! We do share here at WARN.kokaneehttp://www.byebyedemocracy.org/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-85445486043709384052015-05-08T20:31:43.361-05:002015-05-08T20:31:43.361-05:00I've read a couple of King's books but not...I've read a couple of King's books but not Cell. I'm putting it on my list and moving on to the next post. ;)kokaneehttp://www.byebyedemocracy.org/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-51205273878140469392015-05-08T12:36:02.277-05:002015-05-08T12:36:02.277-05:00Thanks for the links. Most enlightening.Thanks for the links. Most enlightening.joe manningnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-71002723348862626732015-05-08T12:16:53.960-05:002015-05-08T12:16:53.960-05:00Zombies are an amazing allegory. Henry Giroux'...Zombies are an amazing allegory. Henry Giroux's use of them in his analysis of consumerism and casino capitalism is spot on. All of the folks who I see walking around looking down at their phones and self-medicated are types of zombies. Have you ever read Stephen King's book Cell?chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-10853767799718383322015-05-08T12:15:47.480-05:002015-05-08T12:15:47.480-05:00Glad you enjoyed the conversation. He did catch th...Glad you enjoyed the conversation. He did catch the naked man. I couldn't be a cop for that and many other reasons. He actually has created a great universe which is why I love his books.chauncey devegahttp://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-10852340895937346292015-05-08T11:32:51.193-05:002015-05-08T11:32:51.193-05:00I like this Chauncey media. Can't wait till it...I like this Chauncey media. Can't wait till its out in video. <br /><br /> Ruffalo always delivers a sensitive performance. Its not surprising that he's hip to racism. Having to reeducate himself after extensive brain surgery has made him especially empathetic no doubt. en.wikipedia.org/Mark_Ruffalo <br /><br /> The way that Morgan was harassed and baited by his cop tormentors is an illustrative description of police parasitism. <br /><br /> I wanted to know if McKinney ever caught that naked guy. His zombies are more plot driven than others as a result of his 90 page preparatory outlines for his novels.joe manningnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-57113078446695664.post-90902392142705049752015-05-08T10:06:49.861-05:002015-05-08T10:06:49.861-05:00Enjoyed! Not sure I would and only admit to enjoyi...Enjoyed! Not sure I would and only admit to enjoying a conservative cop from Texas discussing zombies with trepidation!<br /><br />Why are zombies relevant today? What was the origin of zombies? What are zombies allegory for? Then and now?<br /><br />http://billmoyers.com/segment/film-preview-birth-of-the-living-dead/<br /><br />http://billmoyers.com/segment/henry-giroux-on-zombie-politics/kokaneehttp://www.byebyedemocracy.org/noreply@blogger.com