Tuesday, January 17, 2012

Juan Williams Plays the Black Pinata For Newt Gingrich and White Conservatives in South Carolina



Boy you best know your place.

Juan Williams earned his several million dollar a year contract as Fox News' designated black whipping boy conservative last night...

There is racial progress in America: the Republican crowd for last night's South Carolina debate only booed Juan Williams for his uppity back sassing, whereas not too long ago they would have called up a lynching party.

Once more, my black conservative readers, can you please explain your affinity for a Republican party that consistently (and with glee) lies about and belittles African Americans? And which does so before a national audience--and even to one its "exceptional" pet negroes?

Ultimately, I do not know which was the more offensive aspect of the South Carolina Tea Party GOP debate: was it A) Rick Santorum's factually and sociologically challenged understanding of the relationship between poverty, marriage, and opportunity structures or B) Newt Gingrich's consistent insistence that black people are lazy bums who need to pick up mops, and are uniquely addicted to food stamps and welfare?

This one is yours folks.

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

I wonder if it will cause him to reflect and wonder just how he got there. He seemed a little shocked at the response of the crowd.

CNu said...

There is racial progress in America: the Republican crowd for last night's South Carolina debate only booed Juan Williams for his uppity back-sassing, whereas not too long ago they would have called up a lynching party.

rotflmbao..., millionaire entertainers playing their parts on stage somehow each managed to laugh all the way to the bank and the rubes were none the wiser.

Once more, my black conservative readers,

Can black partisans with no affinity for conservative politics opine here, as well?

can you please explain your affinity for a Republican party that consistently (and with glee) lies about and belittles African Americans?

Help me out here.

I saw some overt political dishonesty pegged to low-information voters of casting Obamamandius as the food stamp president.

Is that belittling African Americans, or, typical political infotainment pegged to rubes?

And which does so before a national audience--and even to one its "exceptional" pet negroes?

Juan Williams earned his several million dollar a year contract as Fox News'..., everything after several million dollar a year contract is merely conversation.

Ultimately, I do not know which was the more offensive aspect of the South Carolina Tea Party GOP debate: was it A) Rick Santorum's factually and sociologically challenged understanding of the relationship between poverty, marriage, and opportunity structures

Didn't catch that, you got a link or links?

or B) Newt Gingrich's consistent insistence that black people are lazy bums who need to pick up mops, and are uniquely addicted to food stamps and welfare?

I'm pretty sure this didn't even happen, but would gladly entertain edifying links that set me right.

chaunceydevega said...

@Cnu. Come now bro' we have gone back and forth on this already. I know you are in love with Gingrich, but at a certain point it is obsessive.

@anon. Don't hold your breath.

CNu said...

CDV,

Sorry to have serially violated the cardinal rule of 2nd/3rd line racism-chasing by asking for the evidence - instead of quietly humming amen in the echo chamber chorus.

I took you at face-value when you asked for an explanation of affinity - my bad for imagining that you EVER answer questions, when it's your role to exclusively ridicule and interrogate your designated political adversaries without benefit of evidence or risk of interrogatory.

Jim in St Louis said...

My semi-affinity for the Republican party is that at least they get it 1/2 right, and would like to promote the conditions for everyone to get a j-o-b, and let everyone have a shot at pursuing some happiness.

I think that you underestimate the amount of hatred this country has for racism. It is not tolerated in any business that wants to stay in business, no school allows it, and any candidate stupid enough to try and use codes or dog whistles or whatever would be pursuing such a tinnie-tiny slice of the voters that it would be crazy to do so. So I don't hear racism in the moderators question- or in the audience booing. They booed other times too- was it racist then?

But that seems to be the core problem of so many brothers- a genuine lack of intimacy with their fellow humans. I agree, plenty of history and cause to distrust- but to wake up every day and see the world as a giant "gonna-get-you" takes more strength than I can muster.

chaunceydevega said...

@Jim. Damn you drank the talking point Fox News kool-aid. Empirical reality, facts about job inequality, data on race and the labor market, and how the Tea Party GOP has used white racism and racial anxiety for the last four decades as a strategy would undercut many of your claims.

Please explain how market deregulation and austerity as proposed and enacted from Reagan on has helped to "create jobs." Free your mind.

Cnu. Back on that broke record again. The feedback loop has got you. We already arbitrated this one. Poor blacks plus welfare queen appeals plus they are lazy and don't know about hard work plus the suggestion that all or a majority of black folks are on welfare with a blindness to white poverty--the group, Red State American especially, who are the majority of poor and food stamp users in this country equals a naked racist appeal.

How can you not see that? They got to turn up the lights in the archive you work in so you can see better. Why defending Gingrich? How much did he pay you off?

CNu said...

We already arbitrated this one.

says you.

but I believe my evidentiary standards are a bit more severe than your own - {without having to invoke the Cobbian litmus "did anybody die?"}

blindness to white poverty--the group, Red State American especially, who are the majority of poor and food stamp users in this country equals a naked racist appeal.

a naked racist appeal that no one else on that stage or at the moderators' podia could recognize and exploit for electoral gain in the moment?

the lady protests too much...,

chaunceydevega said...

@Cnu. Now you are playing a group of colorblind white reactionaries who deny the existence of racism--in South Carolina no less-who likely believe the great sin of the 21st century is white oppression by blacks. Get serious.

Do check out in print or online Edelman's work on race, poverty policy, the media, and conservative electoral appeals. You know better and just trying to get a reaction.

Again, are you on Gingrich's payroll, or is this still a hangover from the folks you approached on educational policy not responding as you would have wished?

CNu said...

or is this still a hangover

If by that you mean the collection of cowards incapable of responding to the Broad Academy hitman in Michigan?

That was certainly a last straw type of eye-opener wrt the inherent spinelessness and uselessness of the 2nd and 3rd line inheritors of the civil rights movement.

Jim in St Louis said...

No Sir, you are incorrect. I have not drunk any kool-aid. And I agree that Fox commentary shows are silly and biased. (Fox's hard news tho is actually pretty good)

You ask me to explain how a economic system BOTH as proposed AND as enacted results in more jobs. (If we can agree that its always a compromise- this country has never been completely capitalist and never been completely socialist) So since you mention data I guess the best thing would be to look at black employment rates on day one of the Reagan Presidency compared to the last day- and then do the same thing for Obama. wiki is down so here is the feds link to the data:http://www.bls.gov/cps/

Personally I don't think its exactly valid to compare the 80s to the 10s- but you wanted the comparison.

I caution you from pulling up 40 years of perceived oppression from the GOP- since again the data would suggest that the Democratic party has a much nastier history of ugliness. (as Hillary said in her Amos and Andy voice "You knooooows what I be talkin' about")

One last friendly point: The Democratic party was once a coalition. Today the Dem party has only one constituency= those who consume tax dollars in one shape or another. And they have built a power base on this idea of re-sharing the pie. But when the economy tanks that pie gets smaller and the infighting begins. We are seeing the progressives abandon Obama,(they hate Obamacare even more than the Tea Party) the anti-war/anti-Bush people are abandoning him(Gitmo). The eco-nuts are dropping him (XL pipeline)
All he has left is the solid support of the black community (over 90%!) and the support of his wall street buddies. I'm doubtful that that will be enough to win reelection.

chaunceydevega said...

@Jim. Fox news does "hard news." You really are deep in the sickness. Check out larry bartel's book Unequal Democracy and come back to the table. You have some basic misunderstandings about policy, ideology, partisan economics, and macro political outcomes.

"I caution you from pulling up 40 years of perceived oppression from the GOP- since again the data would suggest that the Democratic party has a much nastier history of ugliness."

Look at race and wealth inequality data during the same time period, and especially during the the Bush years and tell me what you see.

We can fix you. It will just take time and therapy. Given the austerity and grossly redistributive policies supported by the 2012 gop candidates how can you say with a straight fact that will do anything to empower the working and middle classes, the former that black and brown people are over represented in? do explain, please?

CNu said...

Today the Dem party has only one constituency= those who consume tax dollars in one shape or another. And they have built a power base on this idea of re-sharing the pie. But when the economy tanks that pie gets smaller and the infighting begins.

Show-me.in.the.hizz-ouse...,

(If we can agree that its always a compromise- this country has never been completely capitalist and never been completely socialist)

One notable and overarching exception worth mentioning, however.

Since World War II - this country has been fully and completely warsocialist.

The U.S. military industrial congressional complex - not only unproductively consumes tax dollars at a rate beyond any other governance entity - but is also regionally and demographically home to many of the very worst elements of the GOP base.

Paradoxically, historically, the armed services have also done more to effectively and sustainably reverse legal, traditional, and cultural race discrimination than any other entity and any other entities of governance combined.

CNu said...

Speaking of which, many of the non-postal federal civil servants comprising the black middle classes since WW-II have gotten their start in the armed services.

Along with his role of providing mimetic cover for greatly enlarged Africom military operations, the Hon.Bro.Preznit will oversee and deflect criticism away from the largest federal downsizing of all time - a downsizing which promises to absolutely devastate many members of the black federal civil servant middle class.

What're you gonna call him when he's compelled to impose those cuts, racist?

nomad said...

Damn, that's right. We can't even claim racism. When a white president imposes policies that disproportionately hurt the black community, we can shout RACISM! When a black president does it we shout RA..YOU GO, BROTHER!